drag racing 4age 16/20v on menthonal?

[twin_turbo_4age]

I have access to a number of different 4age engines (blue/red/silver/black) and want to run in the new zealand drag racing scene. I have given up on my idea for a twin turbo manifold.

now how do i set the car up for nittro-menthonal or just plain methonal? i was going to use a turbo manifold with t3/t4, but if i can get sub 11sec with n/a only i will use that.

the car will be a ae92/ae101 depends on which one i can get lighter running fwd.

[GTCRSHR]

sorry if i take this offtopic a tad but what was wrong with making a twin turbo 4age ? (pm me if you want)

[Silent Knight]

You are a real worry dude...

How much money to do you have to completely dedicate to a project such as this?

And you will definately not be running sub 11s with just the engine running even pure methanol wich it won't handle to start with.

You need to think about the rest of the car aswell. Suspension, braces, wheels, tyres etc etc aswell.

[twin_turbo_4age]

i am gifted with a racing dad who know alot about this from his 15+ years at cosworth enginering in the uk.. (he is still there im back with my mum).. he will do all the suspension for me.. i want to plan my own engine tho..

[twin_turbo_4age]

the what do i need to do for it to run nitro-methane or mentonal?

[EVLGTZ]

dear god no

[Mr Revhead]

the cost of running methanol or nitro is very high
you entire fuel system need to be made for it. you cannot use any of the stock components.

to get into the 11s, your talking a full on major car....


i seriously think you should go along to a few of these classes you intend to compete in and watchh. talk to the crews and see what it takes to compete....
and i suggest starting a little lower.... try some club racing etc first. get some experience before you jump into the deep end

[z|gen]

why not ask your dad if hes had 15 years of racing experience?

[twin_turbo_4age]

your 4gtge runs 13.3 with 188kw.. at 18psi.

get low compression pistons from paridse racing with stronger rods, and arp bolts. fully ported head with 3sgte valves and drag camshafts.

now running methonal you dont need a i/c and can run huge levels of boost due to the fact methonal is colder then fuel and about 100octane..

could run 10's... with a car with nothing but a few gagues and a seat...

[Silent Knight]

the what do i need to do for it to run nitro-methane or mentonal?

Ok first thing's first...why do you want to run a 4AGE on pure Methanol?

Now for part two...you seem to obviously not know much about how things work and what needs to be done. If you want to plan/build the engine on your own as you have just stated previously you need to at least be aware of what is involved in such a task before taking it on.

Judging by you question in the last couple of threads you don't seem be aware of much...

I'll say what I've said previously again....go do you some study and research on what exactly you plan on doing so that you are fully aware of what exactly is involved with this sort of project.

[Mr Revhead]

bollocks
your not even close.

first up dont simplify the engine, it would cost a lot of $$$.

even if you get the power you need, you gotta look at the rest of the car.
suspension, chassis etc etc.

look at ronnie lim. thats a waaaaya modded car... with a lot more capacity than a 4age..... wanna guess at the cost of that one?

[twin_turbo_4age]

ok then what do you engine/body combination do you recomend for a first time drag car?

kp61 starlet with 13b?
honda civic with b16?
r31 with vg30dett?
rwd 323 with 13b
r32 gts with 5.0 (302w)?

[Mr Revhead]

pretty much what ever you want.

hell your daily driver will do!

all im saying, is i think your being a little unrealistic with your goals... at least for a first timer.....

[z|gen]

how about the car you have now? until you learn how to launch properly?
why go for something with a lot of power?
theres more to drag racing than just power, you also wont be able to compete in anything other than dyo with a 13b in a starlet, as there rules governing the use of engine and make, also, you will need a rollcage to get to 10s, harness etc..

[twin_turbo_4age]

yeah.. i am sorry...
just hate having slow cars..

a friend was runnign a 13b in a 323 and that was quick he ran like 10/9's in the usa.

what toyota cars are very light but can have a large powerful engine in them. would a aw11 make a good drag car?

[twin_turbo_4age]

budget is around 10,000nz (maybe more depending on the exchange rate) which is waht i got from selling my rally car in england.

cage is fine, quest4 can do it for me.
seat is ok as i only need 1.

as long as it is quick it would be fine.

[z|gen]

the tracks in the states are very different to the ones in NZ, what works there, will not nessecarily work here, their rules are different as well.

anything will make a good drag car, its all in how you set it up though.

quest4 have closed a few months ago - 10g NZ isnt very much for what you want to do, im spending that much on my engine, let alone suspension brakes, caging etc

[Mr Revhead]

i thought quest 4 was no longer?

as i said, go along and watch first

[twin_turbo_4age]

not really..
80% of toyotas make crap drag cars.. camary/crown all too heavy...

light+power= drag

whats different with the tracks in the usa compared to here?

[twin_turbo_4age]

quest4 acording to website in glenfeild..

i have watched drag racing my whole life..

i have rallied 3 cars in 5 years
2x 205gti's and a serria cosworth (all 3 crashed)

was considering a mini over here but cant find any..
a nice little clubman would be great.. 1275gt engine.. legendary...