AE101 fxgt modifying Q's

[rolla_fxgt]

Does anyone know how much a set of S15 silvia headlights would cost? Im starting to get serious on the thinking on the modifying project of the fxgt. & want to start looking at how much it will cost to do.

Also does anyone know who the importer of Alsa paints are?

& does anyone have the sorta $$$ figures it costs to make a reliable turbo 20v silvertop putting out about 400hp?

Has anyone ever made a Ae101 fxgt 4wd before? Im thinking of a ST205 drivetrain?

[Mr Revhead]

a 400hp 20v would chew up $10 easy... if you did it all ya self

[ee904age]

a 400hp 20v would chew up $10 easy... if you did it all ya self

If I give you $20 can you build it for me?

[92GTApex]

I raise the bid to $50

On a more serious note... try contacting speedtech http://www.speedtechnz.com/about/contact

Logan

[Caveman]

First i'd start by aiming for less power. Maybe 150wkw. With that power and weight you'll be going faster than GTS MR2's and Caldina GTTs.

Then use a 4WD drive base such as an AE104 or a ST185/95.

Much better than starting with an FXGT.

[EVLGTZ]

On a more serious note... try contacting speedfactor

speedfactor? wtf have they ever done? bodykits maybe?

SPEEDTECH could build you a reliable 20v turbo for the right price.

but yeah you''d need at least $10k if doing it yourself. More if using a shop

[92GTApex]

Oops my bad corrected now...
The link was still to speedtech

Logan

[rolla_fxgt]

I dont want to do the job with an ae104 or a st185, thats an easy project to do & one thats been done many a time. Im looking for a chalenge & to make something a little different than whats already out there.

So 10-15k for the engine, about 10k all up for the body kit. Couple of g's for the paint.

How much do you reckon for the st205 drive train & the modification to the tunnel housing & all the associated paraphenalia?

Or would i be better just doing an engine swap for an st205 along with drive train & do the conversion that way? similar to the corolla wrc

[Alex B]

your talking big dollars there for a car thats getting on a bit...

[Mr Revhead]

haha ok i missed a k......


i file this under the "if you have to ask, you cant do it" file

[rolla_fxgt]

your talking big dollars there for a car thats getting on a bit...

Yes but think how much some people spend on old cars, i know mine not in that leauge, but im gona do it for my own satisfaction, not because its worthwhile. I figure i wont hav much change from 50k once its all done. Just finding all the time & the bits will be the hard part i think. & possibly someone as game as i am to try something new

[Malcolm]

this came up a couple of years ago, guy wanting to do almost exactly the same thing, from memory nothing came of it, which I would be prepared to bet is the same story here. One can dream, and maybe you'll suprise us all and do it, but I've seen so many dreamers on here asking about all these grand plans, who clearly had no idea, and nowhere near the means to complete the job. So I'm in the same boat as Warwick, if you have to ask, you can't do it.

[rolla_fxgt]

how much you prepared to bet dude? lol.
Im not saying its gona happen tomorrow, but its been my dream for awhile now & since im about to graduate ill actually have the means to do it. Im the type of guy whos prepared to look at things & go why not. If i have a dream i tend to work it thru if its at least feasible.

So all you nay sayers, thanks for the bets against me. But if anyone has any actual advice that they think might be helpful. Id appreciate it.

& if anyone knows of a st205 thats being wrecked for parts, id appreciate a heads up on the drive train.

P.S on a personal note there seems to be quite a few ppl on here who tend to knock ppl 1st up for trying something new. Perhaps there'd be less "modded" hondas & such out there & more really different & cool toyotas if we all tried to help each other out with ideas & tips etc.

Sorry just my little rant

[10k 20v]

a turbo 20v project isnt really all that dear
motor wise you can get a riliable 250hp using parts from the toyota parts bin, no expensive aftermarket parts needed execpt ecu, turbo etc but even a cheapish s/hand turbo would be the go anyway, like a t28 from a gtir pulsar.
if you go ahead all good but do a search on 20v turbo or the like and you'll find a whole heap of info, its been covered soo much in the past.

[Mr Revhead]

hehe yeah but the price goes up a lot when your chasing 400hp!

dont get us wrong, if your serious and not just a dreamer then you will have all the support and advice we can give.
its just that 99.9% of ppl with ideas like this never go any further than talking about it......

the fact that you have to ask so many questions leads us to beleive that your going to have to pay for everything on this..... which could easily take the cost to $50k...... becasue theres a LOT of fabrication needed....

[rolla_fxgt]

Your correct mr revhead that personally i dont have many skills in the fabrication area, but luckily i have quite a few friends who are either mechanical engineers (ie can do the certifying for me) or can do the fabricatrion i need done. Plus Im always keen to learn new skills & give things ago myslef if i think i can do it.

But cheers for the advice guys.

& hopefully I'll get some pics of the build process & put them up on a website somewhere

[Malcolm]

just thought I'd note, my comments were in regard to the 4wd st205 running gear etc, not building a 4agte. Anyone can get a high power engine built with a few $$
BTW just being a mechanical engineer doesn't make someone authorised for certifying, they have to be LVVTA recognised certifiers, and there are different kinds of certifiers depending on what modifications have been done

[RedMist]

The reason for the suggestion on the 104 was probably the direction of floorpan and suspension base rather than the driveline itself.
You will find it stupidly expensive to cutup a 101 and insert a driveline tunnel. Then more than likely you wont get it on the road unless you cage it (even then with difficulty).
In regards to the 205 driveline have you measured it up from the centerline yet and made sure it will fit in the 101 or 104 frame?

As you stated you are attempting to do something different, as such you'll have to battle on your own for a fair bit of the pre project planning.

The reason people on this board are sceptical is two fold. 1 your spending 50k but asking about the price of silvia headlights. 2. You havent done any pre project planning.

Things you need to think about if your aiming for high hp in a standard low HP car.
Will it fit?
Chassis flex. What are you going to do to brace it? and dont even think about only using strut braces.
Suspension geometry, whats going to alter with weight, power, torque.
Weight distribution
Cooling
Braking
Certification
A million other things that I dont have a clue about!

Until you complete a majority of the above, before spending a cent, I'll remain amongst the sceptics.

[GTCRSHR]

hey, i have a AE101 FXGT as well

and basically all i can offer is ... if your going to do it ... do it RIGHT the 1st time ... start with something decent = get rid of silver top

i am doing body mods at the moment to mine engine IF i do anything at all will be unique as well ... but the problem is for me i dont see the point in spending that money on the car ... im ready for a house and stuff like that

these are the other things you have to think of (it may or may not apply to you)

i would love to put a 3S-GTE in there convert it to 4WD but ... as you ahve pointed outand has been pointed out BIG $$$$ are needed and LOTS of know how ...

what about things like a convert the silver top into a 4A-GTE or put a 4A-GZE conversion .... both of them engines when modified would make a nice amount of power for what they are ..

the problem i have found with the AE101 is the lack of parts available not only performance parts but anything ...

BUT in saying that ... i love the AE101 its one of my favourite cars and i am spending money on my car cause i plan to keep it for a few years so i want it to look nice in the process hence why im only really doign the body side of things (appart from the few things like exhaust etc)

but if indeed you go ahead ... then i would love to see this ... or if you have any other ae101 stuff to share

and if i can offer any help then by all means ask ... ive looked into the ae101 quiet a bit and can offer some information,


hope that helps or not :P

[Mr Revhead]

you cant have looked very hard if you cant find bits... they would probably be the EASIEST toyota to get parts for.....