Swapping 2E for a 4E

[DVLRCR]

hey guys. i killed my 2E.

how much work do i need to do to replace it with a 4E?

i heard it would bolt up but i'd need to mod the exhaust?

any help appreciated!

[DVLRCR]

Bumpidy bump. still looking for some info...

cheers

[dotdog]

What sort of 2e to what sort of 4e, cause if you want to go from a 2e-c to a 4efte or 4efe there is alot of work involed

[DVLRCR]

i dont know what it is. its a carbed 2E. not sure bout the 4E to be honest. but apart from wireing, throttle and that sorta stuff, what's needed?

[dotdog]

Um, well you will have to use a injected 4e cause i dont think they make a carby one, not sure tho, just chuck another 2e back it, way easyer and cheaper

[86_rolla]

depends on want, if you want more grunt and got the cash to spare why not put a efte in there, people say its easier to chuck a 4efte than a 4age. Wasnt there a 2e-t?

[dotdog]

Yip, im runnig a 2e-t

[86_rolla]

pretty hard to find those engines aye?. would it be easier for someone to bolt in a 2e-t or a 4efte?

[dotdog]

Hmm, bout the same, but 4e's are more common, more powerful, easyer to get bits for

[DVLRCR]

ive been offered a 4E for a good price, less then i can get a 2E for. so what needs changing?

[Jebus]

You current gearbox/mounts should be fine, youll need it wired $500+ if you cant do it yourself, mounting and piping of the intercooler (im assuming its 4efte) a high pressure fuel pump, maybe a surge tank, a bigger feed line and your stock line can be the return for the EFI. A whole new exhaust system. Youll need a cert, and your brakes and susp may need a bit of a refresh/upgrade. Then theres the usual expenses.

If your gunna do it properly budget over $5g's

so 2E + little or no extra cost vs 4EFTE + $5+ grand

[Rob]

4E will bolt in and they do come out carbed. I did 3E-4E conversion at work a few weeks ago manifolds are different so you might be able to swap the carbs and give it an engine flush cause they prone to shitting themselves

[86_rolla]

i didnt think it would of cost 5g, just outta curosity how much prcentage of that would be labour costs?

[Jebus]

Not alot of that would include labour. Have you done a major carby to EFI conversion. It may seem simple but it all adds up very fast. This being why so many projects get left unfinished. i.e people budget say $2k for a 4age conversion, that gets them a motor, gearbox, mounts, buys some missing parts then theyre broke with, the wiring, exhaust, unexpected problems, cert, all the maintainence parts for the motor. It all adds up, ask anyone whos done a big engine conversion.

[86_rolla]

yeh, no never done one, i was just wondering because i am in 2 minds weather to keep the 2E cause its so cheap on fuel or do a conversion, i jst didnt expect the bill to be that big.

[Jebus]

Yeh, the general rule, take your budget and double it and youll be about right.

Maybe get another shitter rolling body you can hack away at when you have the cash, cos a reliable economic daily driver is really handy.

[DVLRCR]

jebus, thanks but this isnt my project man! as you can see in my sig, i have a real car to work on and this is my daily hack. as in a car that has more empty bottles of coke and V then a recycle bin and more fast food wrappers then a fast-food-wrapper-storage-facility-cupboard place at a fast food thingy

and i doubt its turbs or anything! i'm getting it for FREE! so it will most likely be the crappiest one. which i presume is the carbed version. if so, what do i need to change? i know the whole thing will bolt in. but what about the exhaust manifold? what needs changing there? how about clutch etc? i guess thats all the same...?

thanks for your help so far guys!

also, to add to jebuses comment about the price of a conversion, and doubleing the price... he's right! also, double the time you are thinking you'll need and that might get you a close estimate

[SIKTOY]

Rota it.
If you did Id murder you
You and your cheap engine conversions.
Dont blow your gearbox this time.
L8a

[Rob]

For a 4E you will have to change the exhaust flange but the clutches Im pretty sure are the same

[QikStarlie]

all 4e's are injected. so it wont be carb'd, only the 12v's (1e, 2e, 3e) come out carb'd