best gze to turbo

[Dell'Orto]

toyspeed is not the place to come for engine building advice
unless you just wanna blow sh*t up.............

v

Thats not true, you and a few others here have plenty of good advice to offer. People just need to listen to the right people and always do your homework before doing something like an engine build!

[evil_si]

and finally
toyspeed is not the place to come for engine building advice
unless you just wanna blow sh*t up.............

v

hahahhaha so damn true.

[Bazda]

the 101 comes with the large rods
the 101 facelift has the n/a rods
all the gze's have hyperutectic pistons
they all have the same crank
the 101's have the oil squirters
only the first aw11(excluding facelift)snd the ae-92 gtz is afm(i think) the rest are all map

smaller rods do not mean there weaker
lower compresson is not always better
and finally
toyspeed is not the place to come for engine building advice
unless you just wanna blow sh*t up.............

v

nicely put :D

[crnkin]

toyspeed is not the place to come for engine building advice
unless you just wanna blow sh*t up.............

v

Thats not true, you and a few others here have plenty of good advice to offer. People just need to listen to the right people and always do your homework before doing something like an engine build!

yeah i know I $&#$% up there but i DID say "i think..." and im just here learning and asking questions too, some people are just more accepting of questions than others!

and bazda yeah im a little iffy on the high comp, but im gonna try it anyways, wont cost bugger all, and i already know of a certain toyspeeder runing 25psi plus nos on them...

[IH8TEC]

and bazda yeah im a little iffy on the high comp, but im gonna try it anyways, wont cost bugger all, and i already know of a certain toyspeeder runing 25psi plus nos on them...

who???????????

[Monster_Magnet]

He did what runs 25 pnd and nos what a crock of sh*t that is absolute bollocks hello there is a reason the computer has a boost cut there is a reason they don't run that from factory. It go's like this now everyone pay attention when you build something once you do it once and do it right. If your making an engine in large volumes you want to cut costs.Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't it's turbo this and im going to do that well wake up machining is the first part of making an engine reliable.... NOT USING FACTORY PARTS IS THE SECOND!!! You can't run 25 pounds on stock rods unless you shot peen them or cryo treat them but then you don't have factory rod's you have modified factory rods. They make a couple of hundred thousand rods for 4AGES they are DESIGNED (key word here people) to take a maximum amount of stress now im sorry if it's not 25 pounds or even 18 try a realistic 14.5 pounds for your engine to last year after year after year to the guy who posted some one on this sight runs 25 pounds and nos my question is to you PROVE IT TAKE A PHOTO OR SOMETHING CASUE NO ONE BELEIVES YOU

[ants_ae92]

The reason for the fuel cut - is that the standard fuel system cant fuel that much - 2bar map sensor (14.7 psi) on a map sensored 4age. Otherwise no cut for the afm version.

Many toyspeeders run reliably 18-20psi on their 4agze blocks

Bazda
Evlgtz

To name a few. evlgtz rebuilt his, but not with new aftermarket rods.

Also heard of punctuation and an enter button?

[com]

He did what runs 25 pnd and nos what a crock of sh*t that is absolute bollocks hello there is a reason the computer has a boost cut there is a reason they don't run that from factory. It go's like this now everyone pay attention when you build something once you do it once and do it right. If your making an engine in large volumes you want to cut costs.Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't it's turbo this and im going to do that well wake up machining is the first part of making an engine reliable.... NOT USING FACTORY PARTS IS THE SECOND!!! You can't run 25 pounds on stock rods unless you shot peen them or cryo treat them but then you don't have factory rod's you have modified factory rods. They make a couple of hundred thousand rods for 4AGES they are DESIGNED (key word here people) to take a maximum amount of stress now im sorry if it's not 25 pounds or even 18 try a realistic 14.5 pounds for your engine to last year after year after year to the guy who posted some one on this sight runs 25 pounds and nos my question is to you PROVE IT TAKE A PHOTO OR SOMETHING CASUE NO ONE BELEIVES YOU

There is some truth in your post, but you're the best example why people should go to school.

[crnkin]

He did what runs 25 pnd and nos what a crock of sh*t that is absolute bollocks hello there is a reason the computer has a boost cut there is a reason they don't run that from factory. It go's like this now everyone pay attention when you build something once you do it once and do it right. If your making an engine in large volumes you want to cut costs.Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't it's turbo this and im going to do that well wake up machining is the first part of making an engine reliable.... NOT USING FACTORY PARTS IS THE SECOND!!! You can't run 25 pounds on stock rods unless you shot peen them or cryo treat them but then you don't have factory rod's you have modified factory rods. They make a couple of hundred thousand rods for 4AGES they are DESIGNED (key word here people) to take a maximum amount of stress now im sorry if it's not 25 pounds or even 18 try a realistic 14.5 pounds for your engine to last year after year after year to the guy who posted some one on this sight runs 25 pounds and nos my question is to you PROVE IT TAKE A PHOTO OR SOMETHING CASUE NO ONE BELEIVES YOU

a) what ants said
b) Stock engine, aftermarket ecu
c) yes you can easily run 25 pounds on stock 4agze
d) Everyone knows toyotas are over designed
e) this is not a new thing, this was a decade ago, Glenn is semi helping me/giving me advice on my engine and has been playing with turbo 4ages for about 15??? years, his starlet had this forementioned engine, I never saw it, by no means doubt it, and everyone on here will agree he deserves respect, anyone that can get 800hp plus from a 7age is worth listening too.

Im just learning, but im listening to the people who matter, like si, like vvega, like drifter_4ag, like karl, like bazda, like grotty etc.

I have been wrong about a few things but im here to learn, even tho toyspeed is not the right place its sure as hell better than 90% of the other sites on the net!

(thanks to the forementioned people for helping 4age grommys like me!)

[Mr Revhead]

whoa.... theres some BS here....

monstermagnet, 2 pieces of advice..... PUNCUATION, and pull ya head in.

[anthonym]

toyspeed is not the place to come for engine building advice
unless you just wanna blow sh*t up.............

v

Thats not true, you and a few others here have plenty of good advice to offer. People just need to listen to the right people and always do your homework before doing something like an engine build!

Yeah but it'd be a lot easier if some of you mods would wade over from the kiddie pool from time to time and actually moderate (i.e delete) the unmitgated crap that gets posted in the tech forum . The thread starter is right, doing a seach on here involves hours of sifting through complete nonsense, with no guarantee of actually finding what you are looking for. WTF would you bother?

[EVLGTZ]

hah what a bunch of arse.

My ZE is pretty much bog stock and has been run on up 22-23 psi for over 3 years now. Sure it doesnt get it daily but the lowest boost setting I run is 1 bar and thats for a daily driver as well.

And yes Glenns car did run 25psi plus nos and was one crazy mofo of a car. From memory that motor wasnt built as anything special either. Just good old 4agze and aftermarket ecu.

btw, welcome to toyspeed monster magnet, may your stay here be a highly educating one

[crnkin]

hah what a bunch of arse.

My ZE is pretty much bog stock and has been run on up 22-23 psi for over 3 years now. Sure it doesnt get it daily but the lowest boost setting I run is 1 bar and thats for a daily driver as well.

And yes Glenns car did run 25psi plus nos and was one crazy mofo of a car. From memory that motor wasnt built as anything special either. Just good old 4agze and aftermarket ecu.

btw, welcome to toyspeed monster magnet, may your stay here be a highly educating one

Yeah thats right glenn took your car for a run at the honda/toyota drags last year, i think i spoke to you actually..

Some of us are here to learn, so of you know a heck of alot, and some people are here to waste time, personally im here to try get my goal of 400 hp! and its becoming clearer and clearer who to listen to!

[EVLGTZ]

Yeah thats right glenn took your car for a run at the honda/toyota drags last year, i think i spoke to you actually..

yeah think he did. Was just after the run where i nearly stalled on the line eh

Prob did talk to ya but he so many people ya meet at the drags eh

[Grotty]

He did what runs 25 pnd and nos what a crock of sh*t that is absolute bollocks hello there is a reason the computer has a boost cut there is a reason they don't run that from factory. It go's like this now everyone pay attention when you build something once you do it once and do it right. If your making an engine in large volumes you want to cut costs.Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't it's turbo this and im going to do that well wake up machining is the first part of making an engine reliable.... NOT USING FACTORY PARTS IS THE SECOND!!! You can't run 25 pounds on stock rods unless you shot peen them or cryo treat them but then you don't have factory rod's you have modified factory rods. They make a couple of hundred thousand rods for 4AGES they are DESIGNED (key word here people) to take a maximum amount of stress now im sorry if it's not 25 pounds or even 18 try a realistic 14.5 pounds for your engine to last year after year after year to the guy who posted some one on this sight runs 25 pounds and nos my question is to you PROVE IT TAKE A PHOTO OR SOMETHING CASUE NO ONE BELEIVES YOU

I love the muppets on this site!
taking the internet word for word and never trying anything in real life!
MUPPET!

[vvega]

He did what runs 25 pnd and nos what a crock of sh*t that is absolute bollocks hello there is a reason the computer has a boost cut there is a reason they don't run that from factory. It go's like this now everyone pay attention when you build something once you do it once and do it right. If your making an engine in large volumes you want to cut costs.Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't it's turbo this and im going to do that well wake up machining is the first part of making an engine reliable.... NOT USING FACTORY PARTS IS THE SECOND!!! You can't run 25 pounds on stock rods unless you shot peen them or cryo treat them but then you don't have factory rod's you have modified factory rods. They make a couple of hundred thousand rods for 4AGES they are DESIGNED (key word here people) to take a maximum amount of stress now im sorry if it's not 25 pounds or even 18 try a realistic 14.5 pounds for your engine to last year after year after year to the guy who posted some one on this sight runs 25 pounds and nos my question is to you PROVE IT TAKE A PHOTO OR SOMETHING CASUE NO ONE BELEIVES YOU

omfg you are a retard
come in here with a full of shit rant like that
the only this i have to give you is a tussie to wipe that line of shit dribbling from your mouth

$&#$%

v

[fivebob]

Look 4AGE's and 4AGZE's arn't the greatest for product controll every crank shaft may look the same but the journal sizes are individual to every 4AG supercharged or not has mentioned this to anyone on this sight no they havn't

So does every other engine ever made, including some very high tech F1 engines. It's called production tolerances

Luckily bearing shells suffer the same fate, so all you have to do is match the right shell up to the journal to get a perfect fit. That's what proper engine building is all about... Measure twice, fit once

[Bazda]

lol

[BlakJak]

Folks

As much as Monster_Magnet seems to not know that people need to breathe when speaking (using his lack of punctuation as a hint) and seems to have some fairly strong opinions.... abuse isnt called for.

Monster_Magnet: I think you've been thoroughly disproven. Like all good mistruths, the best are tainted with just a little bit of actual fact...

Can I suggest that you reign it back in a tad and qualify your posts as your own opinion, or otherwise cite your own proof for some of your more conflictory statements. Cheers.

PS: Yes, Please find the shift key and the comma and fullstop keys... they will make your posts actually worth paying attention to, I suspect. (I like many others often tune out posts which become hard to follow due to lack of punctuation).

BJ.