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Postby RomanV » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:56 pm

A friend of mine is in the market for a new car.

I reccomended to him that a GT caldina would be good.
Reliable, with a bit of go, and practical too.

I was sure these were all fwd, but apparently he was told that all GT caldinas are 4wd only.
Is this true? I thought all of the caldinas with the redtop beams motors were fwd only.
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Postby fivebob » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:16 pm

ST210s are FWD, ST215s are 4WD

AFAIK the ST210 didn't come with the 3S-GE until 2000, before then they were all 3S-FEs.

IIRC they're 190ps blacktop engines not redtop.
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Postby RomanV » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:59 pm

Excuse my ignorance, but (for example) did the st210 come out and then was superceded by the st215?

OR

Are they just different chassis codes to differentiate between fwd and 4wd of the same year?

Is the ST210 the 'old' shape?
Becuase IIRC one of my friends had an old shape one which was 4wd and had a 3sfe/3sge in it.
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Postby RomanV » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:07 pm

Also, was there ever a FWD GTT available?
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:15 pm

RomanV wrote:Also, was there ever a FWD GTT available?

no
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:16 pm

check out: http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/caldina/
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Postby fivebob » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:22 pm

RomanV wrote:Are they just different chassis codes to differentiate between fwd and 4wd of the same year?

Yes, the ST210 is the same shape as the ST215, it is just the FWD version, comes in E & G Specs with the 3S-FE and from 2000-2002 in GT spec with the 3S-GE
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Postby Inane » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:36 am

fivebob wrote:
RomanV wrote:Are they just different chassis codes to differentiate between fwd and 4wd of the same year?

Yes, the ST210 is the same shape as the ST215, it is just the FWD version, comes in E & G Specs with the 3S-FE and from 2000-2002 in GT spec with the 3S-GE


pretty sure the 4wd 3sge caldina came out in '97 as did the 4wd 3sfe caldina...

thats according to auto.vl
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:39 am

Santa'sBoostinSleigh wrote:check out: http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/caldina/

the info is all in here......
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:57 am

Inane wrote:
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RomanV wrote:Are they just different chassis codes to differentiate between fwd and 4wd of the same year?

Yes, the ST210 is the same shape as the ST215, it is just the FWD version, comes in E & G Specs with the 3S-FE and from 2000-2002 in GT spec with the 3S-GE


pretty sure the 4wd 3sge caldina came out in '97 as did the 4wd 3sfe caldina...

thats according to auto.vl

Yes, the 2000-2002 refers to the ST210 which is FWD and only came out with the 3S-GE after 2000. Hmmm thought it was clear enough :roll:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:36 am

actually the 3sge was from the 12th month 99 :P yes im a cheeky bugger

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Postby MasCam » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:00 pm

Just as an extra I'm pretty sure that the GT i.e. the 3S-GE one only came as an auto.
If there was a manual I probably would be going for one of them but alas I'll just have to settle for a manual GT-T.


Oh well
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Postby Malcolm » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:08 pm

RomanV wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but (for example) did the st210 come out and then was superceded by the st215?

OR

Are they just different chassis codes to differentiate between fwd and 4wd of the same year?

Is the ST210 the 'old' shape?
Becuase IIRC one of my friends had an old shape one which was 4wd and had a 3sfe/3sge in it.


FWIW a 5 at the end of the chassis code in a T series chassis (ie Corona, Celica, Carina, Caldina) generally designates 4wd (ie st165, st185, st195, st205, st215), and doesn't say anything about whether the car is turbo'ed or not (although in the cases of st165, st185, st205 there were no NA 4wd's so it makes it simple)
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:25 pm

All_Fours wrote:(although in the cases of st165, st185, st205 there were no NA 4wd's so it makes it simple)


Except for the ST205 Corona-EXIV :twisted:
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Postby Malcolm » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:26 pm

I thought the corona exiv was an st195? I thought the *t20* was strictly celicas and currens
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:38 pm

All_Fours wrote:I thought the corona exiv was an st195? I thought the *t20* was strictly celicas and currens

Nope it's a 205 http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/corona_exiv/

Carina was 195, not Corona.
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Postby Malcolm » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:26 pm

well, there you go then :)
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Postby XERO » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:00 pm

Speeking from experience, The GT (3S-GE BEAMS BLACKTOP) is a good car...

Good power from a 2ltr non turbo... 210ps factory output...
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