can this make good power?

[Monster_Magnet]

Oh and just to finish IASCA recorded the loudest car stereo in the world if and do all major competitions including H.I.N in the states and the auto salons in australia. We are the only country not affiliated with them and we are not using there rules which the rest of the world uses as a guide line.

So SQNZ isn't official so you want me to win an unofficial event.

That isn't even heard of in christchurch!!!

Not to mention no body has said what they are running in there car to give them any form of credit to what they say except the author of this thread and me and that was my old car from 3/4 years ago.

BlackRazor and VVEGA what have you won it's that simple if you have won anything now is the chance to say it.

[DeeCee]

dude and if the first comp u entered into was run by SQNZ then you havn't been doing this long have you.

Before that was CANZ running under IASCA rules which were international not national.

Alot harder judging

Wiring
Fusing
Freq.
Static Freq
Sign Generation
Bass Distortion
Tweeter Testing
Headunit Output
Volume of space behind each sub
Volume of air in car
Angle of subs
Angle of tweater
Alternator Amperage

Have you checked to see if your fuse holder is less than 10 inchs from your battery do you have it mounted do you run grounded RCA's or not.

Now you try and win with those conditions

The loudest car in the world is not under IASCA - the format that is used for dB is DBDrags and Termlab and we view these as the loudest dB ratings in the world.

As for IASCA - they pulled out and as such, CANZE was run as a local competition for a year i believe, then OACICE came along and wasn't working out as planned, so we launched SQNZ because there was a need in the audio community for it.
Internationally: Europe runs EMMA, Australia runs CAASQ, we run SQNZ.
SQNZ is not a majorly bloated judging criteria (thank goodness) because then you'd be there for hours assessing a system - IASCA is a very thorough assessing system, but with peoples attention a lot shorter, there is a requirement to focus on what is important in an SQ competition: SOUND QUALITY. We still assess wiring, installation techniques and most importantly musicality of systems, but why would i want to judge things such as volume of space in enclosures and the car or the angle of speakers?? Thats your job to get the best sound from your system and car.

You haven't heard of SQNZ because we have basically just started up this year and are working to get more public exposure slowly and push into the retail sector. Christchurch looks like it will be hosting an event in late November at Pauls Audio And also, SQNZ is picking specific retailers who support the community and want to support SQ. Plus i'm not prepared to let anyone handle SQNZ willy nilly. We have support from BASS in Auckland, SLAP! in Wellington and Pauls in Christchurch. Apart from starting off slowly, i'm not going to jepordise my hardwork and effort to let random stores take control of what i have worked towards - i will not let a full decentralisation of SQNZ happen!

If you really want more info, then feel free to ask and i'll provide judging criteria and scoring sheet.

And don't let Dan/Blackrazor upset you.. he has a habit of poking in uncomfortable places.

Cheers
Dave (the guy that has been writing the rules, judging criteria and doing many other things to push SQ in NZ )

[Mr.Phreak]

People are getting uptight about it because you keep posting utter bullshit, backing it up by saying you won a CANZE comp, which in all seriousness doesn't count for squat if it was in the last couple of years as there were about two or three people per catergory.....which was one of the reasons Stan gave up.

Also would you mind specifiying which titles you won?? Or at least with what car you were competing with, and also when CANZE ran a 1 - 600 watt catergory?? As far as I can remember they had Novice 0-150W, 151-300W, 301-600W, Amateur 0-150W, 151-300W, 301-600W, Pro 0-300W, 301+W.

I'm sure for such a seasoned competitor, You'd also remember back in the NZCAD days, which also didn't have a 1-600W category.

If it'll make you feel better, I'm sure we could convince a few of the major competitors in the National circuit to come and see what they think of your comments?? Or maybe a few of the older Ex-CANZE Judges??

I know its a forum for open discussion and you some of your comments may have merit, but to say you know more than others because you "won" a sound off competiton is pretty lame. All I ask is that you can back your arguements up with something more than "I won stuff" otherwise I can see alot more threads getting locked in this section. BR loves a good debate

[Blackrazor]

BR loves a good debate

Indeed. Nothings better than a mass debate

And MonsterMagnet, theres no point cluttering up this thread with more shenanigans. But i will say, when i've finished my new install in a few months time, you're more than welcome to have a one-on-one comp judged according to IASCA rules, i'll find an old IASCA judge, and if you can beat me the offer stands

[Dragger_Dan]

do you run grounded RCA's or not.

I'm not an audio guru, but WTF?

[Blackrazor]

do you run grounded RCA's or not.

I'm not an audio guru, but WTF?

Old amps didnt use the RCA shielding as ground reference for the signal, so you had to run a wire for ground reference wire from your headunit to the appropriate terminal on the amp. Hasnt applied for almost a decade now, its called 'technological advancement'.

Of course, he may be talking about wiring said wire to the chassis at each end of the RCA, which does precisely dick-all.

[vvega]

2002 i build a car that entered auto salon and won "unofically"
154.9 db in pro extreme class
was the first offical event for db drag in NZ
the system i built was surrounded by controvacy and as it was not my car resubmitting for retest was not my call

up to before 2001 i worked at what was craigs car audio in chch
and if you know anything about canze you will know were that waz
been one of the few places back then with a calabrated alpine RTA we had our fingers in many of the pies
i left just before the owner sold up and it became driving sounds........

do these names ring any bells to you
Charles Porter
Ian Gillies
Chris Vautier


my last proper system entaled a cda1000 (brand new at the time) 2x pxa400's and dd drive subs and componants..along with 4 class A alpine amps
were talking well in excess of 8 grands worth a gear at dealer prices (at the time)

i left the audio game for my own reasons and personally have no intrest in competeing ever again........

and as for grounding rca's you only ever grounded one end...can you tell me why......enough rambling

v

[pervert]

Haha, Monster_Magnet spouting off bullshit again, what a legend...

I think you get dumber by the day dude...

[Lloyd]

That pretty much sums up everything perfectly

[CozmoNz]

hey monster, since your schooling br about audio gear, why dont you school redmist, fivebob, bbbrad, all_fours, bazda, and the likes on engines?

i mean, they know shit all compared to you right? you would have won something to skite off about

I like this thread ^_^ even i find it funny .

[Dragger_Dan]

Wow, Cozmo, that's pretty funny coming from you.

Anywho, regarding actual audio stuff, I've never managed to have a good look at a sound off before. My question is, what kind of equipment do they use to measure dB drag racing, and at what sort of frequency?

[Lloyd]

Specific competition "microphone" of sorts. Can do it at whatever frequency you like but generally its between 40 and 70odd Hz. Difference cars have different resonant frequencies which can add to your score quite easily so its up to you what frequency you tune your box to

[Mr.Phreak]

Wow, Cozmo, that's pretty funny coming from you.

Anywho, regarding actual audio stuff, I've never managed to have a good look at a sound off before. My question is, what kind of equipment do they use to measure dB drag racing, and at what sort of frequency?

These days its done with a Termlab (http://www.termlab.net) and for the score to count it has to be under 80Hz

[Blackrazor]

Now now, lets not get too feisty.

MonsterMagnet, as a conciliatory move, i've found a nice new avatar you can use

[Monster_Magnet]

Hahaha This is like being back in school all these kids and no teacher. Tut tut tut.

You guys shouldn't be allowed near the internet if your going to piss off every chance you get and take everything personally which all of you have I think im the only one not doing so.

Your all acting like it's and attack on your ego are you all that insecure.

Tell me you guys don't take this sight seriously and I will laugh at you, some of you act like this is your life coming here every day to go and post threads against people and tell every one thats wrong or thats right who cares what you think how do you know your not wrong??

But wait I bet some one will post a reply becasue they cant help them selves and need to let some of there agro out go a head I know its coming for every 1 post of mine im getting 6 back its funny.

and i still don't care. This isn't refering to all of you just the ones who post a reply below.

I feel sorry for the initial poster on this thread it died through lack of people wanting to fix the problem instead they choose to hassle and not get the job done

Now for the numb nuts olympics who will be the first numb nuts to post a reply on this thread??

See Below For The Winner!!

[Dragger_Dan]

To hell with you, my nuts aren't numb, I just thought this comment was relevent.

This site is where people go to seek information not just for fun, but often because they are seeking competent advice on a subject they are not familiar with. What people really need is the right information. So it is only fair that if someone disagrees with another's opinion, especially if they are an expert on that subject, that they are heard. It's all about protecting the credability of this forum.

So there

[Monster_Magnet]

It's all about protecting the credability of this forum.

What credability??

Theres people posting that toyota BZR's can do 14's with pod filter and exhaust.
Do you think thats possible??

Wait a better example is needed theres a thread on here where a guy says that he is running 20 pounds on stock GZE rods and ECU is that credible??

More like stupid lets go and hit the boost cut at 14psi shall we??
Like I said what credability.

And i think you should read the part in my last post about not taking it personally

Hell nobody on here takes this sight seriously except you that was the most genuine answer i have heard!!

[Dragger_Dan]

There's a certain irony in what you say. On one hand you are telling me that you don't take this site seriously, then you get highly offended when someobody suggests that what you are saying may not be correct. You said you felt sorry for the inital poster who had his thread jacked, however it was a disagreement between yourself and Blackrazor that was blown out of proportion by yourself that caused this deviation. Your mention of credability is not well thought out. If you read my previous post, I mentioned that experts on this forum are quite willing to correct people's errors or misconceptions to protect the credability of this forum. I think you will find that most posts that claim such outrageous figures are quickly picked up on and corrected.

Anyhow, I'll leave you to your own opinion, perhaps if you feel so negative about this forum you should leave.

[Monster_Magnet]

Your mention of experts isn't well thought of who is the expert some one who can copy and paste from another sight???

What experts? are you the expert?

If so why and what makes you an expert and if not who is an expert according to you??

Mate you, me and razor are not experts no body is without that little bit of paper saying your a mechanic or audio installer.

See nameless and faceless so this sight means nothing there is no credability on this sight.

Mechanics are Credible not posts on a thread simple!!

non of this is law at all.

And did I call you a numbnuts when did I ever say that you assumed that i was talking to you and you took it personally so you replied didn't you.

But its ok your not the only one who will post a reply to what I say jut watch.

[Distrb]

LOL @ this thread

Mr Magnet - Step away from the keyboard and stop winding people up. Failure to do this will result in you being banned from this forum.