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by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:03 am

UPDATE: Sorry guys, I dont have time to run any more cars at the moment, so the hall of virtual fame will stay as is, for now.

Dont worry, those of you who have posted, your cars will be run... eventually. :lol:

I have a program that simulates quarter mile times, as well as a lot of other things.

Since there have been a few threads about "Will car X beat car Y?" etc, I thought this might be an interesting way to find out.

Basically you input all of the necessary statistics about your car, and it uses this to estimate quarter mile times, etc.
It isnt 100% accurate obviously, but is within .1 or .2 of a second of reality. Which is SFA really, a good/bad driver will make that much difference.

What do you have to do to enter a car?
Quote the post below this one into a reply post, and fill it out.
At the end of the week, I will enter the submitted cars into the program, and post some results.

You should be able to get all the info you need from the following sites:
http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/toyota/
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/GasolineEngines.html
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Gearboxes.html
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Transaxles.html
If your car is modified from standard, then you are obviously going to have to input revised numbers. However dont put in 200hp because you have a pod filter on your mums 4AFE :roll:

EDIT: Ive decided to keep the results on the first post, for easy reference. As below.

QUARTER MILE TIMES
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 11.27
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 12.37
REDMIST BUNDERSON 13.56
GADGET SUPRA 13.67
RIDDLES ST205 13.87
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 13.92
BRICK COROLLA FX 13.99
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 14.23
DISTRB AE82 14.61
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 14.76
BAD20V BZR 14.89
MADALTEZZA 14.95
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 15.04
ROMANV STANDARD 15.12
FANGSPORT TE71 15.25
BOXXY AE111 15.28
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 15.38
NMEMR2 15.45
HELBND WHALE 15.51
SCOTTS2HOT 944 15.56
DRAGGER DAN AW11 15.80
FUEL TE71 15.94
BARRYOGENS RAV4 16.19
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 16.27
FUEL 89 GALANT 17.30
AE85 DJ 17.31
DURTYSTARLET 18.59
SLEEKTOY TA22 18.61

NURGENBURGERKING LAP TIME
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 525.2
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 538.9
GADGET SUPRA 558.7
RIDDLES ST205 570.5
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 573.9
BAD20V BZR 580.3
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 580.4
BOXXY AE111 581.3
DISTRB AE82 586.3
MADALTEZZA 586.7
ROMANV STANDARD 590.3
NMEMR2 591.6
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 592.2
BRICK COROLLA FX 593.6
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 594.7
SCOTTS2HOT 944 600.1
REDMIST BUNDERSON 608.2
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 608.6
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 608.8
FANGSPORT TE71 610.3
DRAGGER DAN AW11 615.8
HELBND WHALE 620.9
FUEL TE71 630.2
SLEEKTOY TA22 631.0
FUEL 89 GALANT 634.1
BARRYOGENS RAV4 644.4
DURTYSTARLET 656.1
AE85 DJ 668.3

SLALOM SPEED (KPH)
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 106.3
HELBND WHALE 106.2
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 105.3
BOXXY AE111 105.2
DURTYSTARLET 104.4
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 104.2
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 104.0
SLEEKTOY TA22 103.2
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 103.1
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 102.7
BAD20V BZR 102.2
NMEMR2 101.5
ROMANV STANDARD 101.4
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 101.4
SCOTTS2HOT 944 101.0
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 101.0
RIDDLES ST205 100.9
FANGSPORT TE71 100.5
MADALTEZZA 100.3
DRAGGER DAN AW11 100.0
FUEL 89 GALANT 99.5
GADGET SUPRA 99.1
BARRYOGENS RAV4 97.8
AE85 DJ 97.7
FUEL TE71 96.7
REDMIST BUNDERSON 88.8
DISTRB AE82 88.6
BRICK COROLLA FX 85.8

MONACO LAP TIME

REDMIST VANDIEMAN 123.6
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 124.8
GADGET SUPRA 129.8
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 133.0
RIDDLES ST205 133.4
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 133.7
BAD20V BZR 134.7
BOXXY AE111 135.1
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 136.2
MADALTEZZA 136.3
DISTRB AE82 136.4
BRICK COROLLA FX 136.7
ROMANV STANDARD 137.3
NMEMR2 137.9
SCOTTS2HOT 944 138.0
REDMIST BUNDERSON 138.5
FANGSPORT TE71 139.0
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 139.3
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 139.3
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 141.7
DRAGGER DAN AW11 142.6
HELBND WHALE 145.4
FUEL TE71 145.5
BARRYOGENS RAV4 147.6
FUEL 89 GALANT 147.7
DURTYSTARLET 151.3
AE85 DJ 155.1
SLEEKTOY TA22 158.4

0-100 KPH
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 3.32
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 4.62
REDMIST BUNDERSON 4.95
GADGET SUPRA 5.23
RIDDLES ST205 5.41
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 5.58
BRICK COROLLA FX 5.64
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 6.37
DISTRB AE82 6.43
MADALTEZZA 6.68
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 6.90
BOXXY AE111 6.94
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 7.08
BAD20V BZR 7.15
NMEMR2 7.28
FANGSPORT TE71 7.43
ROMANV STANDARD 7.55
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 7.56
HELBND WHALE 7.64
DRAGGER DAN AW11 7.74
SCOTTS2HOT 944 8.07
FUEL TE71 8.38
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 8.49
BARRYOGENS RAV4 8.71
FUEL 89 GALANT 10.75
AE85 DJ 10.82
SLEEKTOY TA22 11.87
DURTYSTARLET 12.85

LITRES PER 100 KM AVERAGE

GADGET SUPRA 16.0
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 13.2
RIDDLES ST205 12.1
BARRYOGENS RAV4 11.0
MADALTEZZA 10.8
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 10.4
SCOTTS2HOT 944 10.1
REDMIST BUNDERSON 10.0
HELBND WHALE 10.0
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 9.0
NMEMR2 8.8
BRICK COROLLA FX 8.7
ROMANV STANDARD 8.7
BAD20V BZR 8.5
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 8.4
FUEL TE71 8.3
FANGSPORT TE71 8.3
BOXXY AE111 8.1
DISTRB AE82 7.3
DRAGGER DAN AW11 7.3
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 7.2
FUEL 89 GALANT 7.2
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 6.8
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 6.5
DURTYSTARLET 6.5
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 6.4
AE85 DJ 6.2
SLEEKTOY TA22 4.8

TOP SPEED (KPH)
GADGET SUPRA 274.5
3SGTE AW11 ALLFOURS 258.5
REDMIST VANDIEMAN 256.3
ROMANV BEAMS SW20 250.4
RIDDLES ST205 245.4
MADALTEZZA 234.6
NMEMR2 231.7
HELBND WHALE 230.7
BARRYOGEN NA RUNX 229.2
BOXXY AE111 225.2
BAD20V BZR 221.5
ROMANV STANDARD 221.3
SCOTTS2HOT 944 212.6
BRICK COROLLA FX 206.8
SLEEKTOY TA22 204.9
DRAGGER DAN AW11 202.8
SNOOZIN EURO ALFA 196.5
JEBUS 4AGE KE30 194.9
DISTRB AE82 191.3
FANGSPORT TE71 188.3
FUEL TE71 187.1
BOXXY MIGHTY MINI 185.0
STEALER OF SOULS AE85.5 182.1
FUEL 89 GALANT 182.1
REDMIST BUNDERSON 178.0
BARRYOGENS RAV4 169.5
AE85 DJ 162.3
DURTYSTARLET 157.1

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:04 am

Here is an example of what is required.
Car title/user name: eg. NA SW20, RomanV
(Engine info)
Displacement: eg. 1998cc
Engine Location: eg. Front/mid/rear
Type: eg. NA, SC, turbo
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM eg. 200hp@7000rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM eg. 200ft-lbs @ 3000rpm
Compression ratio eg. 10:1
Redline RPM: eg. 15,000rpm :roll:

(drivetrain info)
Gears: Eg. 4 speed? 5 or 6 speed?
Manual/Auto: eg. manual
Gear ratios (below)
1:
2: (if applicable)
3: (if applicable)
4: (if applicable)
5: (if applicable)
6: (if applicable)
Final drive ratio:
Driving wheels: eg. front, back, 4wd.

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: eg. 1110kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: eg. 60/40
Wheelbase in cms: eg. 200cm.
Tire size: eg. 195/40 R15
Coefficient of drag: eg. .35
Overall height in cms: eg. 200cm
Overall width in cms: eg. 200cm
Ground clearance in cms: eg. 10cm.

Nothing to see here people, move along. · by DJ » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:33 am

Car title/user name: AE85, DJ
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1456cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM eg. 85hp@5800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM eg. 87ft-lbs @ 2800rpm
Compression ratio eg. 9:1
Redline RPM: eg. 7,200rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 4 speed
Manual/Auto: Auto

Driving wheels: back

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: eg. 910kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: ?
Wheelbase in cms: ?
Tire size: eg. 185/70 R13
Coefficient of drag: ?
Overall height in cms: ?
Overall width in cms: ?
Ground clearance in cms: ?

Powerhouse

Website · by **V8MOFO** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:33 am

I had this programm a while back, I never understood why the soarer never beat the lamborghini :?:

by **Malcolm** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:53 am

RomanV wrote:Here is an example of what is required.
Car title/user name: 3SGTE AW11, All_Fours
(Engine info)
Displacement: eg. 1998cc
Engine Location: eg. Mid
Type: Turbo
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM eg. 300hp@6,500rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM eg. 300ft-lbs @ 3500rpm (guessing big time)
Compression ratio eg. 8.1:1
Redline RPM: 7,200

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 sped
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.230
2: 1.913
3: 1.258
4: 0.918
5: 0.731
6: n/a
Final drive ratio: 4.285 (guestimating that a little)
Driving wheels: Back

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: eg. 1050kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: eg. 45/55
Wheelbase in cms: eg. 232cm.
Tire size: eg. 245/35R16
Coefficient of drag: 0.35
Overall height in cms: eg. 125cm
Overall width in cms: eg. 167cm
Ground clearance in cms: eg. 10cm.

by **nmemr2** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:25 am

Car title/user name: NA SW20 toyota MR2
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1998cc
Engine Location: Mid
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 166@6600
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 137@ 4800rpm
Compression ratio 10:1
Redline RPM: 7200

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 Speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.285
2: 1.960
3: 1.322
4: 1.028
5: 0.820
6: (if applicable)
Final drive ratio:
Driving wheels: Rear wheel drive

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1250
front/rear weight distribution: um, heard it was about 49/51
Wheelbase in cms: 240cm.
Tire size: front 205/40/r17 rear215/40/r17
Coefficient of drag: i have no idea, romanv you have the same car, what is it?
Overall height in cms: 123.5cm
Overall width in cms: 169.5 cm
Ground clearance in cms: 13cm

oh and it has a momo gearknob that makes it go faster doesnt it

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:32 am

Yep dont worry, I can fill in any missing info for MR2s, and a few other cars.

Click here to see "My Black Hole" · by **Stealer Of Souls** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:35 am

Car title/user name: AE85.5 Levin / Stealer Of Souls

(Engine info)
Displacement: 1587
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 120@6600rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 104@5200rpm
Compression ratio 9.4
Redline RPM: 7800

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.789
2: 2.220
3: 1.435
4: 1.000
5: .865
6: (if applicable)
Final drive ratio: 4.1:1
Driving wheels: rear

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 960 (dry weight)
front/rear weight distribution: 56:44
Wheelbase in cms: 240
Tire size: 195/50 R15
Coefficient of drag: .38
Overall height in cms: 132.6
Overall width in cms: 162.6
Ground clearance in cms: 12.0

by **barryogen** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:40 am

I'd love to do this, but I don't have enough info on the following items...

Weight Distribution: *edit* Managed to get that, the RunX is 55/45 F/R

Drag Co-efficient: It is a standard Corolla(2001) shape but try finding the info...

So, if anyone can help me get these details, I'll more than happily enter.
oh, car details in the link in the sig.

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:44 am

Well I can just guesstimate these things, I have a fairly good idea of what they would be.
Weight distro is usually around the 60:40 mark for a front runner, and the CD would be around .3xx for a modern car.

So just fill out as much as you can, I'll sort it out.

by **barryogen** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:56 am

Car title/user name:NA RunX barryogen/dave.net.nz
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1795cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 203hp@7800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 188ft-lbs @ 6800rpm
Compression ratio eg. 11.5:1
Redline RPM: eg. 8,700rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 6 speed
Manual/Auto: MT
Gear ratios
1: 3.17
2: 2.05
3: 1.48
4: 1.17
5: 0.92
6: 0.82
Final drive ratio:4.53
Driving wheels: Front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1140kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: 55/45
Wheelbase in cms: eg. 260cm.
Tire size: 205/50 R16
Coefficient of drag: .3XX
Overall height in cms: 141cm
Overall width in cms: 170cm
Ground clearance in cms: 10cm.

Drag coefficient is a guestimate, the reast was gleamed from the sites provied, or google.

And yes, it does "rev it's tlts off", it's a damn fun car.

Website · by **Emperor** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:05 pm

do they have to be toyotas?

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:23 pm

Nah, anything goes.

Website · by **Emperor** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:31 pm

Car title/user name: 25GTX Skyline/Emperor
(Engine info)
Displacement: eg. 2498cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 200hp @ 6000rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 187ft-lbs @ 4000rpm
Compression ratio 10
Redline RPM: 7,000rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 4 speed
Manual/Auto: Tiptronic
Gear ratios (below)
1:
2: (if applicable)
3: (if applicable)
4: (if applicable)
5: (if applicable)
6: (if applicable)
Final drive ratio:
Driving wheels: RWD

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1400kg
front/rear weight distribution: ?
Wheelbase in cms: ?
Tire size: eg. 205/55/R16
Coefficient of drag: ?
Overall height in cms: ?
Overall width in cms: ?
Ground clearance in cms: 14cm.

I hope all thats right

Corolla FXGT · by **Brick** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:34 pm

Car title/user name: Corolla FX, Brick
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1587
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 200hp@7600rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM say 180 at a guess

it has alot, its a rally car engine
Compression ratio 12:1
Redline RPM: 9,000rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.166
2: 1.904
3: 1.310
4: 0.969
5: 0.815
6:
Final drive ratio:
Driving wheels: front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 950
front/rear weight distribution:
Wheelbase in cms: 242cm.
Tire size: 185/60/14
Coefficient of drag:
Overall height in cms:
Overall width in cms: 242cm
Ground clearance in cms: 12cm

by **bad20v** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:06 pm

Car title/user name:97' BZR Trueno = Bad20v
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1587cc
Engine Location:Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 170@7800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 130@5600rpm
Compression ratio 11:1
Redline RPM: 8000rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 6speed C160
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.166
2: 2.050
3: 1.481
4: 1.166
5: 0.916
6: 0.725
Final drive ratio: 4.529
Driving wheels: front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1080
front/rear weight distribution: 60/40??
Wheelbase in cms: 246.5
Tire size: 205/40/r17
Coefficient of drag: ?
Overall height in cms: 130.5
Overall width in cms: 169.5
Ground clearance in cms: 14cms

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:13 pm

RomanV wrote:What stops me from cheating, and inputting dodgy numbers?
The scrutiny of your toyspeed peers, going over your alledged numbers with a fine toothed comb.

Brick wrote:Car title/user name: Corolla FX, Brick
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 200hp@6600rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM dunno, just heaps
Compression ratio 12:1
Redline RPM: 9,000rpm

Bricks profile:

Engine Mods... Its factory au ;p but was putting out somewhere around 180hp and massive torque

Everyone can I please get a big :roll:

:roll::roll::roll::roll: for Brick. :lol:

also Bad20v, you can find the length/width/height/wheelbase/track width of your car here:
http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/5454/ if you want to update your post.

Corolla FXGT · by **Brick** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:18 pm

RomanV wrote:
RomanV wrote:
Brick wrote:Car title/user name: Corolla FX, Brick
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 200hp@6600rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM dunno, just heaps
Compression ratio 12:1
Redline RPM: 9,000rpm

Bricks profile:
Engine Mods... Its factory au ;p but was putting out somewhere around 180hp and massive torque

Everyone can I please get a big :roll::roll::roll::roll: for Brick.

well it has 180atw, and i read somewhere about 10% loss from the flywheel to the wheels so....
200-10%=180? i beleive that is correct maths?
and no its not factory, just looks it

by **RomanV** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:21 pm

Well you must've had it on a dyno if you know that.
If you did, surely you would know where max torque occurs aswell, and how much? It would help accuracy if you could find this out.

Corolla FXGT · by **Brick** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:23 pm

RomanV wrote:Well you must've had it on a dyno if you know that.
If you did, surely you would know where max torque occurs aswell, and how much? It would help accuracy if you could find this out.

thje engine is out of my mates rally car, he had it on the dyno, he doesnt rememebr wat the torque was, he only remembered the hp

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