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Postby riddles » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:53 pm

Some interesting numbers although I would have to debate the last couple.

According to the calculaters possted in the rpm to speed thread The car has a theoretical top speed of 270kph (larger rolling diameter than standard @ 261kph), I know it has been up past 200kph so a 170 top speed just isn't right.

From the 200l of gas that went in over the weekend I got 2,100km and still have about half a tank left, so closer to 9.5l per 100km for the consumption.
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Postby RomanV » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:57 pm

Well how sure are you about the coefficient of drag? This is the biggest factor to top speed, and IIRC you said it was .4, which is rather high!

Your theoretical top speed doesnt take into account that you may not reach 700rpm in fifth, if the car cannot push through the aerodynamic drag.

This could also affect your mileage.
However I will double check the numbers when I get home. 8)

Also, on some other tracks which I had a play with but didnt post, your car ended up in the top 2 or 3. 8)
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Postby Emperor » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:04 pm

RomanV wrote:I cant... Dont have enough info.

And I CBF'd searching for the skyline info that your missing. Maybe if it was a toyota, and easy to find.


What do you need? The gear ratios?
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Postby RomanV » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:12 pm

Gear ratios, wheelbase, car height and car width.

You'll be able to find the wheelbase, car height and car width here:
http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/

But your on your own for the ratios.
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Re: Toyspeed virtual drag race competition.

Postby barryogen » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:50 pm

RomanV wrote:I have a program that simulates quarter mile times, as well as a lot of other things.


Any chance you could zip it and email it to me at dave@dave.not.nz(munged) change not to net
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Postby riddles » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:56 pm

Yeah, the .35 cd was hard to find, got it off one of the american forums. I know it may not be possible to get to the theoretical top speed but have had it approaching 220 in 5th (guesstimate since the speedo only goes to 180) on an slightly uphill straight before I backed off and there was still plenty of give. It eaisly gets up to 150-160 in 4th and my speeds at the drags were 149-157 in 3rd and just getting into 4th for the 157.
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:05 pm

Does displacement matter much in the calcs program...
Just realise that I originally put in 1598 (was looking at something else at the time oops...) in stead of 1587...
hp and torque figures were still about right though...
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Postby RomanV » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:08 pm

Riddles:
Aaah okay.

Yes I agree that the indicated top speed was quite low in your case.. I think something must be amiss. Will double check when I get home.

SOS:
Yeah it does, it helps work out what the torque/hp curves look like.
But the amount of difference between those two numbers would be SFA.
Perhaps if you said it was a 6 litre 4AGE it might matter a little more. :lol:
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Postby barryogen » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:10 pm

RomanV wrote:Aaah okay.
Yes I agree that the indicated top speed was quite low in your case.. I think something must be amiss. Will double check when I get home.


Can I gueest a bit of quoting in your posts?
I have no idea who your replying to, and imagine that others don't know either.
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:12 pm

barryogen wrote:
RomanV wrote:Aaah okay.
Yes I agree that the indicated top speed was quite low in your case.. I think something must be amiss. Will double check when I get home.


Can I gueest a bit of quoting in your posts?
I have no idea who your replying to, and imagine that others don't know either.

he's replying to riddles....
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Postby Brick » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:12 pm

barryogen wrote:
RomanV wrote:Aaah okay.
Yes I agree that the indicated top speed was quite low in your case.. I think something must be amiss. Will double check when I get home.


Can I gueest a bit of quoting in your posts?
I have no idea who your replying to, and imagine that others don't know either.



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Riddles:
Aaah okay.

Yes I agree that the indicated top speed was quite low in your case.. I think something must be amiss. Will double check when I get home.

its to riddles :wink:
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Postby RomanV » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:30 pm

barryogen wrote:Can I gueest a bit of quoting in your posts?
I have no idea who your replying to, and imagine that others don't know either.


Sorry, dont have heaps of time to reply at the moment.
Yep, I'll send you the program, but not till later tonight at the earliest.
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Postby boxxy » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:54 pm

GGnz wrote:I'd love to see some Toyota vs Honda comparisions. Like 20V vs B18c etc.


i wouldnt... i think those dirty dirty hoondas would pawn us (20v owners)all :( :(
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Postby scotts2hot » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:08 pm

Car title/user name: Porsche 944 / scotts2hot
(Engine info)
Displacement: 2479cc
Engine Location: Front (rear gearbox, clutch, diff etc.)
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM eg. 163hp@5800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM eg. 151ft-lbs @ 3000rpm
Compression ratio eg. 12.5:1
Redline RPM: eg. 6,500rpm


(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
1st Gear Ratio 3.600:1
2nd Gear Ratio 2.059:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.400:1
4th Gear Ratio 1.034:1
5th Gear Ratio .778:1
Axle Ratio 3.875:1
Manual/Auto: Manual

Driving wheels: back

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: eg. 1180kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: 50:50
Wheelbase in cms: 240
Tire size: eg. 225/50 R15
Coefficient of drag: 0.35
Overall height in cms: 127.5
Overall width in cms: 173.5
Ground clearance in cms: 15

I havn't been able to find gear ratios yet, it'll be interesting to see how a car designed for nurberguring goes against a couple of toyotas :)

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Postby DJ » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:29 pm

i wish I got 6.2l/100kph

Its more like double that :? :(
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Postby durty starlet » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:41 pm

yeah, my gas consumption is heaps worse than that
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Postby fuel » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:00 pm

My fuel consumption is about the same as posted - although the top speed is a bit on the high side - the best I could do was 165km/h on a long long straight (not on public roads of course.. noooo).

I'm amazed that I'm only 0.01 of a sec quicker down the 1/4 mile than an automatic AE85. My car isn't even that much heavier, and has more power and torque.
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Postby RomanV » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:37 am

Riddles.... Ive found out whats wrong.
I entered your wheel diameter as 17cm rather than inches. :lol:

this will more than likely drastically change your results, so I will rerun them for ya.
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Postby RomanV » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:25 am

All cars entered now, first page updated.

Note: changed Instead of suzuka, I have now listed slalom speeds.
Some interesting results there! really mixes it up a bit.
WTF is helbnds car doing up there?! :lol:
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Postby madaltezza » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:59 am

wish my car did 14.95 secs at the drags and the 230sumthing km i wish 2 my car stops at 192 in 4th still got 2 gears 2 go arrrrr :twisted:
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