20v power/torque output

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Postby Dragger_Dan » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:39 pm

RedMist wrote: The 16 valve had just a little bit more help.


So what counts as 'just a little bit more help' for RedMist?
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Postby RedMist » Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:09 pm

TWR headwork.
Arias forged pistons
Redtop smallport rods and crank.
Kelford L7 cams
Kelford shim under bucket solution
quad throttle bodies
Lynn Rodgers 4-2-1 headers
Wasted spark
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Postby sergei » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:08 pm

I had 2 engines in it, preface lift/facelift intake manifolds, 2 different computers (later Mines), and funny output on the dyno did not change much. A lot changed in between (Completely different engine, different intake manifold, different exhaust setup, even run black top cams), not much gain from stock...
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Postby CEvans » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:33 am

i would have thought the blacktop would have been a little more powerful :?
my old wheels 2002 gsxr 750 was putting out 138hp atw.so my bzr got a little way to go then.
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Toyota's hp

Postby UltraSonic2 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:43 pm

to be honest i think toyota over rates it's 20V and GTZ they never put out the numbers there ment too. and you can see this on the 1/4 mile too.
my GTZ with a pulley made 86kw at the wheels
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Re: Toyota's hp

Postby Bling » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:51 am

UltraSonic2 wrote:my GTZ with a pulley made 86kw at the wheels


local GTZ down here put out 107kw/atw before he got a pulley kit (ae101)
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Re: Toyota's hp

Postby RedMist » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:03 am

UltraSonic2 wrote:to be honest i think toyota over rates it's 20V and GTZ they never put out the numbers there ment too. and you can see this on the 1/4 mile too.
my GTZ with a pulley made 86kw at the wheels

Thats because Toyota quote flywheel HP without ancillaries. Substancially more than the likes of you and I will see at the hub.
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Postby RomanV » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:45 am

Do they still do this?

I heard they started testing them 'properly' at some stage.
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