Fusion any good or?

mauvis99 · Post by **mauvis99** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:49 pm

Hey, just wanting to know what i should deck my car out in? just go all out on fusion? deck, amp, speakers? Or should i go with some other head deck and some infinity speakers? A few of my mates say that fusion is gay, is it? Any advice would be much appreciated, peace.

86_rolla · Post by **86_rolla** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:55 pm

depends, like what you might think sounds good the next person will tell you it will sound shit. Parallel imported has some good stuff in auckland, i got a Clarion 846mc headeck with music catcher for $350. Also depends on the price that you want to spend, i put Infinity kappas, alpine headeck, phoenix gold amp and sub in a m8z car and it sound awesome. So it pays to take a cd along to the shop and have a listen to all your options then go from there

Alex B · Post by **Alex B** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:25 pm

There is absoultly no point in all in decking out your car in one brand, unless your marketing for that company floats ya boat

NZcelica · Post by **NZcelica** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:31 pm

Had two sets of fusion speakers, the first crapped out after 1 month.
Recieved new replacement ones on warranty with a letter of apology.
They then blew up 2 weeks later. Sent them back and asked for money back.
Now have infinity REF6000cs components running from my alpine deck and SOOOOOOO much better

I also had a friend who has had fusion speaker trouble so IMO...dont go there!

lostslinky · Post by **lostslinky** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:26 pm

Fusion lomu 6.5" components. I HIGHLY recommend them!!!

method · Post by **method** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:50 pm

Depends what fusion.

Anything under powerplant, ie reactor and encounter isn't good imo. Same boat as Sony.

Powerplant and above, ie PP and Lomu is good.

Especially their amps, they make awesome ones.

But id still get eaudio amps for amps :lol:

Blackrazor · Post by **Blackrazor** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:52 pm

Buy the product that does the best for the money for the thing you're buying. Like Pyro said, the only people who care if your car is one brand is the company who sells that brand.

Buy the speakers from the brand that makes the best speakers, the amps from the company that makes the best amps, and so forth

AJz · Post by **AJz** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:04 pm

Blackrazor wrote:Buy the product that does the best for the money for the thing you're buying. Like Pyro said, the only people who care if your car is one brand is the company who sells that brand.

Buy the speakers from the brand that makes the best speakers, the amps from the company that makes the best amps, and so forth

you should listen to ohhh wise betty, young grasshopper

Caveman · Post by **Caveman** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:27 pm

I have run two fusion powerplant amps. They are sweet, good power, 2ohm stable and sound great.

I had a set of powerplant 5.25 coaxles which were absolute crap, the only good speakers they make a powerplant splits, lomu splits and lomu subs.

I would recommend the amps and speakers above powerplant.

Anything below powerplant, there HU's and alarms are yuck!

method · Post by **method** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:38 am

Blackrazor wrote:Buy the product that does the best for the money for the thing you're buying. Like Pyro said, the only people who care if your car is one brand is the company who sells that brand.

Buy the speakers from the brand that makes the best speakers, the amps from the company that makes the best amps, and so forth

Your crazy. Scott Buwalda doesnt agree!

MYTH #1: Certain brands win every time.
"Equipment was infinitely important in the early '90s, but it's not nearly as important nowadays because the top 10 or 12 manufacturers are all building very solid product. You're going to hear very minimal differences between them. Today, you still have the zealots who will stand by their brand because it's the most expensive and carries the most weight in the competition scene. But the biggest decision for the entry-level enthusiast is to buy what sounds good to your ears."

And

MYTH #3: Get a high-end amplifier.
"A watt is a watt. I doubt most people can hear the difference between amplifiers unless you push them into clipping anyway."

barryogen · Post by **barryogen** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:29 pm

method wrote:
Blackrazor wrote:Buy the product that does the best for the money for the thing you're buying. Like Pyro said, the only people who care if your car is one brand is the company who sells that brand.

Buy the speakers from the brand that makes the best speakers, the amps from the company that makes the best amps, and so forth

Your crazy. Scott Buwalda doesnt agree!

and quoting someone that no-one knows who he is, is kinda dumb.
thats like me saying "But Stephen White says that Scott Buwalda is full of shit"

pervert · Post by **pervert** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:35 pm

Saying no-one knows who he is, is an incorrect statement...

He's been IASCA world champion a few times hasn't he?

cheese · Post by **cheese** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:44 pm

from experience of other peoples cars (i wouldnt buy fusion EVER). The powerplant amps can be brutal and good value for money. aside from that, all the gear is ugly.
similar to usa earthquake brand. apparently its real good top knotch shit. but serously...sooo ugly.

quality and looks im all about pioneer(headunits only) and rockford (everything else).

method · Post by **method** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:01 pm

pervert wrote:Saying no-one knows who he is, is an incorrect statement...

He's been IASCA world champion a few times hasn't he?

Yeah hes the reigning champion of IASCA's world SQ circuit.
Most people in the SQ circuit would know who he is, and probably anyone who is into their car audio.

In other words he officialy has the worlds best sounding car audio install. So im sure he knows a little more than your friend Stephen White..

But even if it didnt come with him the two startements do make a fair bit of sense. Its just easier to believe than if i said it.

And my gear of choise. Alpine for the head unit, Tsunami for the accessories, eaudio for the amps.

As far as speakers go ive got some alpine speakers at the moment and a RF sub, probably upgrade to a Adire sub and that will be my final install. Untill tis time to get some Arvus speakers :wink:

barryogen · Post by **barryogen** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:47 pm

method wrote:
pervert wrote:Saying no-one knows who he is, is an incorrect statement...

He's been IASCA world champion a few times hasn't he?

Yeah hes the reigning champion of IASCA's world SQ circuit.
Most people in the SQ circuit would know who he is, and probably anyone who is into their car audio.

In other words he officialy has the worlds best sounding car audio install. So im sure he knows a little more than your friend Stephen White..

Stephen White was someone I made up... thats how stupid it is to quote shit without any sort of reference... sure I could have googled him to find out who the hell this guy was, but the guy who made the thread was asking about fusion gear so is probably un-likely to know who this guy is either.

Just my 2c, flame away if you wish.

method · Post by **method** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:12 pm

It wasnt a reply to this thread, the thread has served its purpose and the question has been answered. It was a dig at blackrazor.

And he sure as hell knows who Scott Buwalda is. The quotes wern't ment for people who dont know because really you wouldnt give a shit anyway. Theres a lot of things you wouldnt understand.

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:27 pm

method wrote:It wasnt a reply to this thread, the thread has served its purpose and the question has been answered. It was a dig at blackrazor.

And he sure as hell knows who Scott Buwalda is. The quotes wern't ment for people who dont know because really you wouldnt give a sh*t anyway. Theres a lot of things you wouldnt understand.

sorry it didnt do very well

most people are not the people that win SQ comps
scott is also not most people

so when you start to generalise that most people would be able to tell
to me thats the hill billys down the road living in the once were warrier flats that steal car audio rather than buy it

i can tell the differenca between crap speakers and decent ones
i can tell the differance from as crap amp to a decent one

so when buy car audio i buy the stuff that to me sounds the best with a price tag i cant quite afford

if you really belive your post swap all you rgear for reactor shit
maybe then you ll realise what a complete load of crap it was

v

Alex B · Post by **Alex B** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:40 pm

vvega wrote:
i can tell the differance from as crap amp to a decent one

v

In what way do you mean?? As mr winner of sq comps has said " a watt is a watt"

Not being smart, just being curious

method · Post by **method** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:38 pm

Well if reactor amps suited me id buy them. Thing is their amps are hardly amps and cant provide anywhere enough power.
They dont have good enough crossovers to run my setup active, they dont have one that will supply a true 100wX4, or 270w bridged, hell even sony amps dont reach those specs. You cant get such a amp for under $500ish anyway. But the $500 amp will be as good as the $1500 amp so long as the features are good enough.

And reactor build quality is crap. The amps the along with lanzar, pyle etc sell hardly register as car audio in my books. Their amps dont even supply 100W rms X4. But im sure if they deliver 50W a the same s/n ratio it will be the same 50W as any other amp delivers. No difference. A volt is a volt, a amp is a amp, a ohm is a ohm and a watt is a watt. That was the pont of that second quote. Same goes with cars, a KW is a KW weather it came from a b18c, 4g63 or a 4age

As fopr the first quote, say some Arvus QCA6 speakers and DLS Iridium 6.2's will sound more or less the same. Both superb speakers. Although you will find people leaning toward arvus.

Understand now??????
Your pretty much comparing a 2 stroke(reactor, hardly even a amp) to a 4 sroke (like the 4age). Apples with Apples mate. Reactor dont have any amps or speakers that match the specs of my install, if they did and i could save $$ i would buy them.

Anyhow my post was amed at BlackRazor as i said, he knows what i was on about and if you dont just dont reply. As he was the one that stated quotes in the first place anyway! Dont have a cry because you dont understand and cant even interpret my post right.

And i never said most people would be able to tell. I said most people in the sq circuit would be able to tell.

Read my post again buddy and get over your self, you dont need to dissagree with everyone especially in a field you don't have much knowlage of.

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:14 am

pyro_sniper2002 wrote:
vvega wrote:
i can tell the differance from as crap amp to a decent one

v

In what way do you mean?? As mr winner of sq comps has said " a watt is a watt"

Not being smart, just being curious

its in the detail you hear and the way it makes the waveform

a watt is not a watt thats been debated for many years and now cause a guy that has very little to do with building his system tell syou things your right up there with your head in his arse

i love people like you
rather than work things out for yourself youll listen to some hype and get all bared up

and yes method i know nothing about audio
nothing at all...... be careful buddy you might end up in the shit...yet again

ill go buy some valve amps and some good splits and well see whos talking shit aye

remerbering that the valve amps only have 15-30w rms of power
im quite confident they would blow your socks off

v