gt4 wastegate not opening

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

gt4 wastegate not opening

Postby ben » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:29 pm

The wastegate on my gt4 doesn't open (boost just builds and builds until you hit fuelcut). I haven't had a good look at it yet (the engine hasn't cooled down since I bought it) - but I've been told the spring may have siezed or the actuator arm just needs some lube.

Are there any howtos on the net or tips to be taken when dissasembling the wastegate and lubing it up?
White tshirt, black gt4. In the 04.
User avatar
ben
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:33 pm

Postby method » Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:32 pm

If its the internal wastegate take a good look at the wastegate acuator arm.

It is probably ceased, move it in and out and lube it up should do the trick. However it could be rusted up or bent or pourposly jamed! I dont think you need to pull it apart and lube the internals, just free it up and lube the arm a bit.

For pics of what it looks like just google. Its basically the round bit thats not your turbo with a bit of metal poking into it that can move in and out.

Or get a 38mm tail, they are pretty cheap now and sound awesome!
PICS UPDATED DAILY
Evo IV - 13.0 @ 167.8 kph Full street trim - SOLD
Boosted 4age Ke30 - Im back and better than ever!
User avatar
method
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1466
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:58 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby GT4 20 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:23 am

If it has ceased (sorry, siezed :wink: ), you'd probably be better off getting a replacement actuator IMHO.
A Tail (oops, I mean Tial :wink: ) external will require a lot more work to fit and wouldn't be worth the time, money and effort involved unless you are planning a much higher than standard power output.
Gary
1999 Subaru Legacy B4 RSK TT
GT4 20
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1086
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:03 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Malcolm » Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:11 pm

of course you're never going to need an external gate on a ct26, unless you're running a heft shot of nitrous
User avatar
Malcolm
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 4631
Joined: Tue May 14, 2002 1:01 am
Location: Auckland

Postby Fraud » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:47 pm

And i would suggest zero boost till your comfortable you've fixed it :wink:
Fraud
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 416
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby ben » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:28 am

Nah I been boosting lots - I just try and keep it below 10psi (it goes 10->15 too quick and hits cutout).

Is it bad to drive without the wastegate operating? I thought the ECU prevented any permanent damage? I've got really good at avoiding the fuelcut.
White tshirt, black gt4. In the 04.
User avatar
ben
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:33 pm

Postby EVL GSXR » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:48 am

Yeah but do you really want to drive around trying not to hit boost cut??
You can't bury your foot when you know it's going to hit fuel cut!! It's not a big fix try loosen the Acuator Arm this will more then likely be the problem..
www.lowndvs.co.nz

1997 GSXR750 - 11.23 @ 128mph to date - Round 280kph Top Speed to date
http://toyspeed.blakjak.net/profiles/profile.php?id=793
User avatar
EVL GSXR
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1764
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:00 pm
Location: Ice Land

Postby Skin » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:08 am

Its not something like a hole or leak in the hose leading to the actuator is it? Probably pay to check that as well
cogent wrote:iPhones can eat a dick.


1981 Mazda RX7
1997 Toyota Corolla
User avatar
Skin
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1438
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2002 12:33 pm
Location: Perth, aussieland

Postby Malcolm » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:39 am

I think the easiest test procedure would be-

1 - disconnect line that comes from compressor housing and goes to actuator (very short)

2 - attach a pressurised air feed to the actuator - does the actuator arm move? - if yes then the hose you just removed must have been leaking, and may be cracked, or the outlet from the compressor housing is blocked. if no, continue...

3 - can you hear air leaking from anywhere? if so find the source of the leak (should be fairly easy) and repair (it may be the actuator leaking, in which case replace it), if no, continue

4 - if you grab the actuator arm can you get it to move out from the actuator? should only be a cm or so. If no, then actuator is seized, if yes then....? Not much else it could be, assuming the downpipe is factory, maybe someone stuck something in the wastegate ports for more boost :)
User avatar
Malcolm
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 4631
Joined: Tue May 14, 2002 1:01 am
Location: Auckland

Postby Fraud » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:45 pm

ben wrote:Nah I been boosting lots - I just try and keep it below 10psi (it goes 10->15 too quick and hits cutout).

Is it bad to drive without the wastegate operating? I thought the ECU prevented any permanent damage? I've got really good at avoiding the fuelcut.


Its called DETONATION, and though the ECU will limit any major damage, it is in no way completly avoiding it.

It may not be detonating, but trust me, you really don't want to find out the hard way!!

(May end up spending as much money on your motor as I have otherwise. And that was all because I blew a weld out of the centre of my intercooler :cry: )
Fraud
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 416
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby ben » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:43 pm

Well I'll try and take it quietly until the weekend then. I want to give myself a few hours to take the i/c off and so on so that I've got room to move down there.

That engine bay is tighter than... a tight thing!

Thanks for the advice all_fours - really helpful! :D
White tshirt, black gt4. In the 04.
User avatar
ben
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:33 pm

Postby method » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:17 pm

GT4 20 wrote:If it has ceased (sorry, siezed :wink: ), you'd probably be better off getting a replacement actuator IMHO.
A Tail (oops, I mean Tial :wink: ) external will require a lot more work to fit and wouldn't be worth the time, money and effort involved unless you are planning a much higher than standard power output.
Gary


Haha my bad, im not too good with my engrish. I always say "tail" so i guess i type it like that :oops:.

Spoken is waaay easier :D
PICS UPDATED DAILY
Evo IV - 13.0 @ 167.8 kph Full street trim - SOLD
Boosted 4age Ke30 - Im back and better than ever!
User avatar
method
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1466
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:58 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby ben » Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:02 pm

it was a vacuum line not hooked up. 8O
White tshirt, black gt4. In the 04.
User avatar
ben
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 339
Joined: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:33 pm

Postby Fraud » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:48 am

ben wrote:it was a vacuum line not hooked up. 8O



Heh heh, always something simple!
Fraud
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 416
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: West Auckland


Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 10 guests