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by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:42 pm

So, as per the title, has anyone dynoed their 3sge before?
Standard or otherwise?
Im interested to know what they really put out, we all know what toyota engine stats are like. :roll:

I was planning on getting mine dynoed before I swapped engines, but my car carked it before I had a chance. :lol:

Has anyone dynoed a Gen 2 or Gen 3?

I know that celicaRA45 and Dodgy are making some impressive numbers, but their engines are hardly standard.

by **Jebus** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:54 pm

http://garagedori.com/tech/3sge_aftecu.php

Karl skewes has dyno'd his Gen 2, it wa smodified but if ya flick him a PM he may have done it stock also. Worth a shot.

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:13 pm

Thanks.

Yeah Ive seen that before, not a bad effort for the modifications!

He never used the stock manifolds etc though IIRC.

Im curious as to what a stock(ish) motor will put out.

by **Jebus** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:37 pm

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php? ... msg_713202

Other than that, beats me.

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:13 pm

certain chap on mr2ocnz (cant find the thread for the life of me) made 105kw @ the rears gen 2 mr2, 3sge

i snicker at that, the little aw making 104.5kw @ the rears

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:17 pm

What do you mean?

Does an SC aw11 make more than that? (or are they easily capable of that with pulley kit etc?)

by **Adamal** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:26 pm

Might want to take into account that Karl's setup was in an FR, and would have more drivetrain power loss than an MR.

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:40 pm

Yes but Im sure that the quad throttles and megasquirt (among otherthings) more than make up for that.

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:41 pm

RomanV wrote:What do you mean?

Does an SC aw11 make more than that? (or are they easily capable of that with pulley kit etc?)

mr2siks (now mine) aw11 made 104.5kw @ the rears on stock everything bar k&n filter in stock box and different muffler (about 2kw short of factory @ flywheel)

and a 2litre n/a is making a good 20kw less than it should be

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:43 pm

CozmoNz wrote:certain chap on mr2ocnz

Courtesy of them deleting threads after 60 days I would imagine. :roll:

Dont know why, its a stupid idea.

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:45 pm

yeh, and ive forgotten his name

hes on my msn list....

im sure when he comes on ill just go *thats him* and reply to this thread...

be about 40 days old then though hahaha.

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:46 pm

CozmoNz wrote:and a 2litre n/a is making a good 20kw less than it should be

WTF?

156hp * .85 = 132hp = 98 kilowatts. :roll:

How do you figure it should be making an extra 20kw again?

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:54 pm

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/63/ 121.36kw

see this is where you go, THATS AT THE FLYWHEEL DIPSHIT

and this is when i go yes, i know, but the little aw made 104.5... stock being 107kw... so um... shouldnt it be making like, 70kw @ the wheels going off those figures

yup, just stirring.

odd isnt it, toyotas boosted engines usuaully reach their "quoted" figure... (3sgte for example, most guys hit the 180+kw mark, when stock is 180kw (at the flywheel)), same with supras... (well, late model items it seems)

hmm.... however thers alot to take into consideration and at 100-120kw, does it really matter... :-/

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:09 pm

see this is where you go, THATS AT THE FLYWHEEL DIPSHIT

Not its not.
And there's no need for that language, little boy. :twisted:

Gen 2 3sge is sometime quoted as 156hp.
However I will give you the benefit of the doubt anyway.
(Why do I bother trying to talk sense into Cozmo? *stabs self in the face*)

Assuming it makes 165 instead of the 156hp (which is quoted as the gen 2 3sge power figure elsewhere)
It will make the following:

(I'll break it down for you, nice and slow, since Im nice. :wink:

)

165 horespower, times 0.85 (15% tranny loss) x 0.745 (conversion factor to KW) equals..... Wow! 105kw! Which is exactly what he made!
Amazing. :roll:

So again... wheres this extra 20kw you're on about?

And whats this talk of all toyotas making less HP than they shoud?
That honour seems to be reserved for 4ages only.

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:25 pm

RomanV wrote:(I'll break it down for you, nice and slow, since Im nice. )

165 horespower, times 0.85 (15% tranny loss) x 0.745 (conversion factor to KW) equals..... Wow! 105kw! Which is exactly what he made!
Amazing.

So again... wheres this extra 20kw you're on about?

And whats this talk of all toyotas making less HP than they shoud?
That honour seems to be reserved for 4ages only.

the bold bit

Why dont 3sgte powered mr2's loose that 15%? (ct20... the ct26 alone will loose hp than whats stated lol)

just the tranny loss bit im getting at.

meh, maybe my tranny is so wicked sick, theres no loss at all! :roll:

just calm down, people get to excited on these boards sometimes

.

and hey, only some 4age's

of the 20v nature.

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:31 pm

Have a read. :wink:

viewtopic.php?t=37374

by **CozmoNz** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:55 pm

On the spot my chap, just had a read

end of the day, your only making the power that your making, and im making what an N/a 2 litre makes

.

All im saying is maybe they should be making more i guess.

by **RomanV** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:57 pm

Well it makes sense that a supercharged engine should make about the same as an NA motor that is 20% bigger...

Id be worried if it didnt.

by **mr pad** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:35 am

CozmoNz wrote:end of the day, your only making the power that your making, and im making what an N/a 2 litre makes .

woopty shit.

by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:47 pm

i have my doubts about that dyno cozmo

just think about it for a bit.....

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