AHHHHH I thaught toyotas were reliable!

[Alex B]

No...STILL DO NOT DRIVE IT!!!

[CozmoNz]

Driven directly off the crank (no belt)

[method]

If it was it wouldnt last one minute.

And if the water pump isnt working the hot water obviously isnt comming out of the hot engine therefore the water temp sensor isnt showing how hot the engine is.

Dont drive it, your pretty stupid if you do, especially to BK and the likes. Just get it fixed and you will save the bill for a whole new engine.

[Spannergal]

Had a proper look at the engine rite now. It seems that a nut went free which allowed a tensioning "wheel" thing to fall out, which loosened one belt which prolly fell off and knocked the other off.

Lol I dont need a new engine, i just need the current one fixed.. And when it does get fixed i dont think ill be driving it hard again.. Nice and easy from now on

Untill wendsday im gonna go back to driving my old car, a 1989 Fiat Uno 70SL. Ahhh good cheap $300 car.

from the sounds of things, as others have said the water pump will not be running - if that the case the temp gauge will not be reading as it should that is it won't show the engine temp.

unless you want to be paying for a new engine DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR
if the car is allowed to overheat enough, the expansion of metals will cause damage and it is cheaper in most cases to replace the engine than to have it reconditioned

also like most cars, toyotas are reliable if the nuts and bolts holding things together or in the right place are done up properly.

[Lazyluka]

Yeah i havent been driving it ever since i got back, so i drove it 8mins max from BK to work (happend just as i was approaching BK), and for like 5 secs just to reverse it int o the warehouse for storage over the weekend..

Im thinking of replacing the belts myself now, just so i can drive it to the mechanic where they can be adjusted properly. I can tighten them pretty well and i have all tools minus the torque wrench, so ill be fiddling around with that over the weekend.

I have two belts, one has a bigger diameter than the other and is more to the front of the engine bay while the other is closer to where the driver sits, which one runs the water pump? cause thats the one i would concentrate on.

[Mr Revhead]

dude, you lost a pully... you cant just stick the belts back on.....

[Lazyluka]

I have the pully, i went to pick it up off the road, gonna buy a new one.. And its just a tensioner pulley.

[Lazyluka]

Heres my plan of action:

Replace the pulley with a new one, and find a nut that goes on the end (i culdnt find that)
Stick the two belts(or just the one thats needed to run the waterpump) back on. Secure it so the waterpump will run.

Drive home. Park home till wendsday. Drive to mechanic (driving will be done at non rush hour times, 5am or 8pm to avoid any traffic congestion which may cause overheating if something was isntalled wrong)

Get the mechanic to fix everything, and check everything. Im planning on asking him to do the full service, new brakes, new spark plugs, new oil, retune the engine, new air filter, new gearbox oil, braking fluid, filters for the aircon, and annything else annyone can suggest.

Id rather spend more now when it goes in for service than have to deal with another problem on the road.

[Spannergal]

Heres my plan of action:

Replace the pulley with a new one, and find a nut that goes on the end (i culdnt find that)
Stick the two belts(or just the one thats needed to run the waterpump) back on. Secure it so the waterpump will run.

Drive home. Park home till wendsday. Drive to mechanic (driving will be done at non rush hour times, 5am or 8pm to avoid any traffic congestion which may cause overheating if something was isntalled wrong)

Get the mechanic to fix everything, and check everything. Im planning on asking him to do the full service, new brakes, new spark plugs, new oil, retune the engine, new air filter, new gearbox oil, braking fluid, filters for the aircon, and annything else annyone can suggest.

Id rather spend more now when it goes in for service than have to deal with another problem on the road.

rather than trying to replace the pulley and risking any thing else going wrong, contact your mechanic and see if they can arrange for the vehicle to be towed in. Any good mechanicshould be able to help you do this, especially if they want to keep your business

[GT4 20]

Why are you here asking for advice as you have basically ignored virtually everything said so far? It seems to me that you have already made your mind up about this and if you wait long enough, someone will come along and say it's okay to drive.
As Warwick says above, your mechanical knowledge is obviously limited and things like this are best left to someone who knows what they are doing. Sure, you could save a few $ by doing what you want, but I doubt if you could afford a replacement motor if all goes t*ts up.
If you come on a forum and ask for advice, the very least you can do is be polite enough to accept it when the evidence is overwhelming
Gary

[Lazyluka]

I just want to drive the car

And my mechanic isnt open on the weekends

I seriously think that replacing a pulley shuldnt be too much of a hassle, but ok, ill listen to what is being said, ill call up a towing service tommorow and have them take me to the nearest mechanic that works on a saturday.


And could somone please tell me what happens to your engine when ur VVT Pulley goes bust? Does it damage the engine? I still dint get this reply!

Maybe i shuld just shutup for the next week(or at least keep my posts short)......

Soz guys...

[CozmoNz]

dont be insulted, he just took it the wrong way that you asked for advice, then ignored everyone.

give it a go if you really want to, you arnt stopping you, but when it all turns to poo (which it may) dont expect a awww sorry, we gave you the wrong advice ok?

youd be getting the "told ya so" syndrome. let us know how you really got on if your dead set on doing it (i know one or two people that would tell everyone to go get stuffed because they are physically abled to do it them selves!)

Just think everything out .

and the vvt pully, it wont die... your car if it does seize, will just have less low end / high end (i forget which), and sound like a deisel... a very bad one lol.

[Lazyluka]

Seeing as i already have a bad reputationa round me.. i may as well just add this..

I actually want to learn how to fix things on my car, just like my old car, i dont want to run crying to a mechanic each time something goes bad. Replacing a belt doesnt seem soo hard, if it was a cambelt id take it to a mechanic, but a normal belt driving waterpump/alternator/ac/power steering, its not that hard.

I do have some mechanical knowledge, i am doing engineering, sure its not mechanical engineering but electrical but i like to learn things, mechanical things interest me alot but i dont see me doing it as a job. Thats why i may sometimes ignore other peoples advice, even though they gave us a lecture on this and told us we shuld always listen to the advice of ppl who have experience with this.. heh, oops

sorry again

[l1ttle_d3vil]

maybe you should post a pic of the belts like you said you were going to do, that way we can probably 100% identify what belts they are.

[Lazyluka]

How do I post pics?

I took some, but i dont know how to post them..[/img]

[Lazyluka]

When i was putting the belts back on i noticed that the pulley that fell off is quite difficult to place on and tighten the belt. Access is very limited and the screw doesnt seem to like fitting on to easily.

U can easily see if u jack the car up and look from underneath if the screw that holds the pulley is fitted properly. I found that the pulley loved to pull the screw on an angle. Only after u tighten it up does it fit nice and 90degrees to the tightening screw. I think the mechanic who was replacing the belts before dint tighten it up too good or left it on an angle.

This probably happened on the other post as well. The ac belt one.

My english isnt the best over the net, but ill try help out as much as i can.

[Difficult_E]

Just get someone to look at it, or a friend with some experience.. that way you can get it fixed and learn

[Lazyluka]

Yeah i spent the day fixing it. On the belt packaging it says u need to run the engine for 5mins then retighten them. So i did that but i know from my dads car that they need retensioning in another couple of days. Luckily im booked in to go to a mechanic on wendsday so now i can drive it there no probs. Till then im just gonna keep it garaged tho, no unecessary drives.

Anyway seeing as i drove it fromt he palce where it happend to my work, it dint $&#$% up the engine at all, it did however (i think) make a mess of power steering, because as i was turning the wheel it was forcing fluid into places it shuldnt go.. So yeah

Engine = fine
Power steering = I have no idea, ill get it checked out
Waterpump = Seems to be working