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PWR Water to air intercooler kits on a GTT

Postby H1S_SUB » Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:10 pm

hey ya peeps im currently going through my options for a intercooler setup for the Caldina, was wondering if anyone has had or know of anyone that has installed a pwr barrel water to air intercooler kit ?

My thoughts are this, instead of all the extra piping that comes with doing a front mount, I want to look at the water to air, in order to keep the response up simillar to the top mount but also I want something more able to cool the intake temp to tone down any hint of detonation that these cars seem to be prone to (allbeit i only run 98) specially now that we are comming into the summer months, also i want to spend a some cash and get a decent setup that will endure any further mods that might be done on the car.

Im not looking producing huge ammounts of power maybe around the 300hp mark reliably, once i buy an ecu

So thoughts ppl pls :D
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Postby MasCam » Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:10 pm

I will be getting a GT-t soonish and this is one of the options that I am considering for it.

It seems like an ideal solution but I was wondering how well the ST205 water to air one worked? How much power can it handle and is it an easy fit to the caldina's engine bay? It may be a more cost effective option especially as your being realistic and not shooting for .... hmmmmm shall we say

450hp


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Postby fivebob » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:24 pm

Can't see how you could easily fit one to a GT-T :?

The 300HP one is 395mm long, which IIRC is too long to fit directly between the Turbo and the manifold. Also I would doubt that there would be clearance under the bonnet. Even the smallest one would require 150mm clearance from the cam cover to the bonnet to allow for the water piping, which should be on the top of the I/C to allow it to be bleed properly.

Another thing is the pressure drop, the quoted 1.1psi drop is rather high, but I suppose that in order to cool the charge with such a small area it would need to be.
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Postby Adydas » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:15 am

what would stop someone useing a 205 ic? im assumeing been same design motor would fit allmost just as well. and bonnet i would assume is high enuf if it has to fit a Current Top mount AtA..

i love the 205 style cooler i has, was cool to the touch after some 80 + kph driving tonite, so suits my needs.
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Postby fivebob » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:29 am

The ST-205 has a centre feed intake manifold, the GT-T is side feed and would require a bit of modification to fit.
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:20 am

Don't know about the PWR WA IC. There was a previous post about these coolers, and the general concensus was that they weren't all they're cracked up to be...

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Postby H1S_SUB » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:18 pm

ok here's something for you all to consider what if i relocate the battery to the rear ? there seems to be alot of wasted space in that area .

I also notice the pressure drops was a bit on the high side to....... why is that :?:

Anyway its just an option im looking into at the moment ....something a bit different i spose is all i want :wink:
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:25 am

Pressure drop where in the system?

I think relocating the battery would be a good idea. It'd give you more room to do anything. Even if you dont' go WA it'd still be good.

I say go WA unless you race... Lots of benefits for a streeter...
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Postby 3rdgen3SGTE » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:07 pm

do custom front mount air-to-air intercooler (more big that you can)
your side feed manifold is very effective so not very good designed for st205 intercooler setup
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Postby Adydas » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:16 pm

Water to air all the way.
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Postby 3rdgen3SGTE » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:19 pm

I dont know how put water to air intercooler on Caldina engine it's impossible
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Postby GorGasm » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:53 pm

God and clairvoyants are impossible, W->A on a caldina isnt.
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Postby Malcolm » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:08 am

GorGasm wrote:God and clairvoyants are impossible, W->A on a caldina isnt.


:lol: Nice
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Postby Inane » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:33 am

Id be keen to seen the difference in temps after intercooling just before intake between the caldina t/m and the 205 w/a under similar conditions..
I know the w/a has a huge benefit over any non assisted a/a setup under slow conditions or where the car sits idle for any period of time...

you could go more unconventional and go for a Water sprayer and a small radiator fan under the I/C,

combine that with Water injection and it could work well... (but not sure if the benefit would be worth the cost.)
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Postby Ako » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:47 am

Id say maybe what he has ^^^ - a water sprayer could get you some decent results. Works brilliantly on the subbies.

Or while we're on that train of thought... How bout an aquamist setup? Could be an option for the space - impaired caldina engine bay.



For the record - the nzperf drag car is running a PWR 1300hp cooler. At the end of a 20 second full power run, with compressor outlet temps of 100 degrees +, the temp at the throttle body is still below ambient. They do work brilliantly, but are not cheap.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:50 am

yes iv looked at aquamist..... and would quite like one....


and water spray on air to air can make a huge difference....

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