time to start looking for a new turbo...

[Pies]

Well the sw20s turbo has started the downward spiral to death so i figured i better start looking at new turbos.
i dont wanna stick with the ct26 so i figured id look at the other options.

had thoughts of buying malcoms blitz/kkk kit, or going ct20b. does anyone else have anymore ideas?

i want to aim for around 350-400Kw (not just with a turbo upgrade!) and i dont really want to spend more than $2500 on parts including turbo, manifold, oil lines, wastegate

[fx gt]

LOUD NOISES

[CozmoNz]

400KW?!?!

dont think either of those turbos will be up to producing that much air

could always strap 2 ct20b's on and try that haha.

[mr2_t]

fairly sure my ct26 is on its way out (oil seals) , i will be looking for a ct20b when it pops

[Pies]

400KW?!?!

dont think either of those turbos will be up to producing that much air

could always strap 2 ct20b's on and try that haha.

and thus, the reason for this post...

wheres the brainy people like vvega and fivebob at...

[FrEsH]

T3 ?:) GT25R if ur budget can stretch?

[Pies]

yea i was lookin at garrets on driven performance. not too sure which one is best suited to my application.

i want a quite a quick spool up time. i know im gonna get a decent amount of lag but i still want it streetable

[Malcolm]

My turbo will be enough for about 400HP at the wheels, which is about 300KW. 350-400KW @ wheels is insane power, a GT25 wont get you anywhere near it, neither will a GT28RS. Have a look on the mr2oc.com dyno list, see what turbos people making 500HP+ at the wheels are using. In the GT series the GT35R seems popular for those power levels, but it's certainly not going to be a streetable powerband. Realistically unless you have money for a major engine build, a good computer and such (so like, $15,000+) you'd be better off aiming a bit lower. I think 500RWHP is enough to get you pretty close to 10's in a lightened sw20, I think around that magical 300RWHP mark would be a better goal...

[Boosted_162]

Anyway, i want Malcolms turbo

[Pies]

i meant hp... not Kw

[Malcolm]

well that changes everything. A CT20b wont get you there. My turbo should, and I think the GT28RS might be getting there also

[Adydas]

Pies Hurry up and do it now so you can tell me whats good so i can follow in your footsteps.. The money i have basically aside its makeing the descion.. I think im going to stick with CT20b idea tho.

[Al]

TD06 20G kit. It will run you around $3300 shipped however. It will be more driveable on the street than other larger turbos but theres still enough turbo for 400+rwhp.

http://www.atsracing.net/ats_racing_td0 ... er_kit.htm

[Adydas]

Al.. dont you worship the CT20b like it was your own child? if so why are you even Looking at other kits for your car?

[Akane]

What do you mean? I want my 400rwkw right now! Here's a paperclip and $0.02

400hp seems do-able, but not on a $2500 budget. Try $6k + Labour all up.

all_four's right, GT28RS won't get you 400hp, while the GT2540R will get you 400hp at crank tho. It's not all about big power neither. You'll be suprised how well a GT28RS with it's wide flat torque curve do on the street, besides, it's vvega approved.

[Mr Revhead]

i know where u can get "ct20bs" from

will leave a lot of change from $2400 too....

[Al]

The way I see it is if you are happy staying with the stock ecu and fuel system buy a steel turbined ct20b, its all the turbo you will need for ~275rwhp. Add some HKS 264s and an aftermarket sidemount I/C and I'd guesstimate you could max out the stock fuel system with 1 bar of boost.

If somehow you want more than that on the road (which will still see off 95% cars on the road) mortgage your house, sell your grandma, whatever, it aint gonna be cheap.

For more power you need a decent turbo, with that decent turbo comes the need for better cooling, then more fuel, then you need something to run the new fuelling, then you will need a better clutch...the costs will mount up quickly. You then have to weigh up HOW much power do you want, because either way 300rwhp isnt going to be much cheaper than 350rwhp.

If you are down this way or in the Marlborough area in a few weeks time when I've fitted my new clutch, I'll take you for a run on my test road

[Ako]

http://www.nzperformance.co.nz/store/vi ... 20GT2871RS

Buy ^^^ That sucker off me, or similar. That price can get shaved a fair bit for TS members. Personally I'd much rather spend a little more and get a genuine, ball bearing garrett turbo than just going for a factory upgrade, but that said you dont need to change any manifolding to suit the factory turbo. Hence works out cheaper in the end.

Your call - actually, call or email me at work if you want a better idea of pricing and suitablility.

[barryogen]

well that changes everything. A CT20b wont get you there. My turbo should, and I think the GT28RS might be getting there also

The GT28RS is used a heap in the US for 300-350HP(wheels) Celicas using both the 2l 3sge and the 1.8l 2zzge.

[flygt4]

both those being n/a engines with higher compression , meaning more power is achievable on less boost.

oh and pies , go for a ct20b , stretch it to 200kw atw , that is plenty of power.
ive been in als mr2 on low boost , and on high boost it would be perfectly happy seeing off 90% of other cars on the street , and wont sting the pocket so much.