Dear Car Owner, Heres another fine, Love, The Fuzz.

[MINTFX]

Seems pretty OTT to me. But I guess I would be annoyed at having people hooning up my street with a noisy exhausts. As for people asking why do people have big and loud exhausts, My mate has one and he loves the sound of it, he said it turns heads and gets looks aswell which makes him feel cool Also it looks alot better than the stock muffler. Asking that is just like saying is it necessary to have a turbo? Personal preferance, different people have different tastes.

[fangsport]

I don't care anymore. I put my silencer back in last night.

It was a weird feeling driving it today... I could hear all the rattles and squeals everything else makes...

so it could in fact be a safety issue then? you might be able to hear worn out brakepads, small exhaust leaks( before they get bigger/ more expensive to fix), and a whole heap of other little things that would have turned into big things had you not been able to hear them.

[dori-kin]

My biggest problem is that there's still no standard testing procedure!!!!

Isn't it like establishing a speed limit and the police not having the equipment to measure how fast a car is travelling?

I don't have a problem with noise control but it needs to be standardised across the board.

[method]

The fact there is no standard sucks.

Its never happened to me but it has happened to a lot of people and i hear about it quite regulary. A cop pulls you over, you prove him wrong then he goes and looks for problems with your car.

Now if your car has a audiable exhaust, keeping in mind most japps make sfa noise when idling, no burble etc he could get you for it. Even if your car isnt 110db like a harly or 9X like a falcon.

And i really hate the term boy racer, its pure dicrimination. I dont walk around saying those darkies and relate them to crime the way they relate boy racers to illigal car including activities.

Not every youg person driving a high performance jappa uses it for illigal things, some like my self just love cars and drivng them.

[JT]

My biggest problem is that there's still no standard testing procedure!!!!

Isn't it like establishing a speed limit and the police not having the equipment to measure how fast a car is travelling?

I don't have a problem with noise control but it needs to be standardised across the board.

Exactly, all power to the police. If the angry coppa has been having a bad day and your exhaust isn't stock; Wham, 10 demerits and $250 fine.

[barryogen]

IMO if you arent driving like a tosser or doing anything wrong I doubt you will get pulled over. I've had several police cars stopped behind/infront/beside me at all times of day and I'm yet to be pulled over for being too noisy.

yeah i agree, ive never had any problems from cops about my old car or the vr4 and both are too noisy to get a warrant from a testing station

The VR4's last 2 warrants were AT a testing station fool, read the WOF sticker

one of my workmate with an almost standard(barring straight through exhaust) Nissan Pulsar, took it down to the local testing station for a wof.

The guy hopped in, started it up, and bounced it off the redline for a good 10 seconds(!) and said it was too noisey, and failed him.

In the end, he took it elsewhere, got the warrant, and complained about the testing station, they now atleast have guidelines on how to test noise on the wall, which doesn't include bouncing it off the redline.

[Silent Knight]

If they want to bring this law in and give the cops power the testing stations should test for the noise levels otherwise it's pointless. How are you going to know if it's too loud if you can go in and get a WOF saying sweet your car is all legal?

I'm with the rest here...there needs to be a standardised procedure for testing noise levels on exhausts. If you can get a WOF which the police wants you to have and pay for it then how can they say that your car is illegal with the loud exhaust and fine you?

If that is the case then the WOF place should be able to be held accountable for the fine as they issued the WOF to you in the first place...

[fangsport]

If that is the case then the WOF place should be able to be held accountable for the fine as they issued the WOF to you in the first place...

yeah, but that only would work if the bolts that join the exhuast sections are drilled and sealed, so the car owner can't fit his noisy components after getting the WOF sticker. if each car has a hand-held EBA tester, then they should also be equipped with an EdB tester. unlees there is an accurate testing device, then every rally car that has anti-lag of rotary power will be potted on touring stages.

[Mr Revhead]

i know for a fact one of the top 5 rally cars last season was running a straight pipe......

yes, this law is a complete cock up. the only fair way is to have a limit, and a certified test procedure. its the ONLY FAIR WAY.

i think im gunna email some governtment paper chaser

[HELBND]

i sort of agree with the loud cars issue - while it doesnt really bother me, i live on a reasonably busy road, and have just learned to sleep through it.


However, the lack of a standardised test is utter BS. They should have to prove you are breaking the law, not just be able to decide on the spot.

What i disagree with rather strongly, is the demerit points. I think demerits should only be applied in cases where something dangerous to others/yourself. A noisy exhaust isnt a reason to lose a license

[Adydas]

Dont hold me to it.. BUT i belive the rules for demerits is simple and this is how its based.

If you endanger someone elses life its demerits, if only your self its No demrits.

For eg,

Speeding could kill someone else, Not wearing a seatbelt wont.

Drink driving will kill or hurt someone, a bust indicator generally wont.

[CaM]

Dont hold me to it.. BUT i belive the rules for demerits is simple and this is how its based.

If you endanger someone elses life its demerits, if only your self its No demrits.

For eg,

Speeding could kill someone else, Not wearing a seatbelt wont.

Drink driving will kill or hurt someone, a bust indicator generally wont.

w3rd

loud exhaust is more a slight vehicle defect than a safety issue, unless it's a mean leak that'll get into the cabin....

[Mr Revhead]

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/driver-responsibility/stepping-over-the-line1.html

[barryogen]

Dont hold me to it.. BUT i belive the rules for demerits is simple and this is how its based.

If you endanger someone elses life its demerits, if only your self its No demrits.

For eg,

Speeding could kill someone else, Not wearing a seatbelt wont.

Drink driving will kill or hurt someone, a bust indicator generally wont.

w3rd

loud exhaust is more a slight vehicle defect than a safety issue, unless it's a mean leak that'll get into the cabin....

ummm, loud exhaust could cause hearing damage, or mental damage if the person gets sleep deprived.

Personally I'm for a law to shut the dickheads up, but against the cop being able to decide just on their opinion.

[fangsport]

gotta love these 2:

Driving at such a speed as to be unable to stop in half clear distance ahead 20
Driving in a lane at such a speed as to be unable to stop in length of lane visible 20


so does that mean if you have 5km of clear road you can travel at mega speed with a good brake, suspension tyre package???

[barryogen]

gotta love these 2:

Driving at such a speed as to be unable to stop in half clear distance ahead 20
Driving in a lane at such a speed as to be unable to stop in length of lane visible 20


so does that mean if you have 5km of clear road you can travel at mega speed with a good brake, suspension tyre package???

as long as you are below the speed limit, yes.

[fangsport]

gotta love these 2:

Driving at such a speed as to be unable to stop in half clear distance ahead 20
Driving in a lane at such a speed as to be unable to stop in length of lane visible 20


so does that mean if you have 5km of clear road you can travel at mega speed with a good brake, suspension tyre package???

as long as you are below the speed limit, yes.

it dosn't mention anything about exceeding the speed limit and not stopping in time

[Si]

i have a dba meter sitting at work,
will have a play before i put my new muffler on
(trying to get rid of the drone from my zaust....)

[VR-4Squid]

My street is pretty busy, and many times, day and nite you can hear people reving out 2nd, then 3rd, and on a few occasions 4th.

Wether the exhaust is stock or not, cars make alot of noise when their being rev'd right out, and flat out in 3rd (let alone 4th) isn't 50km/h in anything i've ever driven.

I'd rather they cracked down on anyone speeding in 50limits (where there's kids, and pets, and driveways, and intersections, etc) than specifically single out the twats making alot of noise doing it.

Still, the cop who pulled me up yesterday (random check) didn't say anything about my exhaust (or tints or bucket seat).

[Chelles]

Officers would take into account factors such as the time of day and impact of the noisy car when making a decision to issue tickets, Pullen said.

did they really? Or did they 'consider' their quoter and their 'power'