3S-GTE rebuild.... *Finished!*

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Postby GT4 20 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:21 pm

I can assure all doubters that this is a Gen III engine. In fact, if anyone can prove me wrong, they can have my car :wink: And the reason you can't see an oil filter is because I haven't fitted one yet :P

Anyway, on with the build....

Managed to skive of work this arvo and managed to get quite a bit done.

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Finishing off fitting the sump to the bottom of the motor...

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... including a nice shiney powdercoated sump pan 8)

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Genuine parts where possible. New belt and idler and tensioner wheels...

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... finished off the camblet side of things...

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... allowing the bottom cover to be fitted.

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OE fuel rail (for now) was bolted on. As this was originally a 3SGE head, slight mods had to be made - including the injector holes which needed to be enlarged to suit the 3S-GTE injectors.

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Then the inlet manifold could go on.

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To the front and fitment of the alternator bracket and bling alternator :D

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State at the end of the day. Loom is now partially fitted along with numerous hoses etc. Really glad I took lots of photos before I stripped the motor down :lol:

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Need to adapt the cam cover slightly as I can't use the centre throttle body support due to the lack of castings etc on the n/a head. No real issues asthere is plenty of other support. Once that is done the cover can be fitted. Then, hopefully, time to fit the box. More to follow tomorrow :D
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Postby Al » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:30 pm

Are you replacing cams at all?
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Postby GT4 20 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:40 pm

Al wrote:Are you replacing cams at all?


Yep. 262 HKS jobbies nestling on top of a Lyn Rogers worked head :D
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Postby Al » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:44 pm

Good man. You should see nice gains with less boost.
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Postby fivebob » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:26 am

Akane wrote:I'm not claiming that I know the Gen 3 block,

Then why make the post that you did, a little searching would reveal that the oil filter in question resides under the sump and as such would not be visible in these pictures.
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After you :P

Actually I think we could do with a few more factual posts in the Tech area, would cut down a lot on my overwhelming desire to make sarcastic remarks about posts that don't belong.
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Postby fivebob » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:28 am

GT4 20 wrote:
Al wrote:Are you replacing cams at all?


Yep. 262 HKS jobbies nestling on top of a Lyn Rogers worked head :D

Then you'll also need some adjustable cam sprockets, no point in fitting aftermarket cams without them.

BTW what ECU are you planning on using, and please don't say the stock one... I'd hate to see all this good work turn into a pile of junk.
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Postby Akane » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:56 am

fivebob wrote:Then why make the post that you did, a little searching would reveal that the oil filter in question resides under the sump and as such would not be visible in these pictures.


I did search, and I didn't find much if anything about the oil filter location, and saying I didn't search is just as bad as me jumping into conclusion that Gary's engine is not a Gen 3, and which afterall, I didn't say it wasin't 100%.


fivebob wrote:After you :P


Only if pigs start flying in your backyard.

fivebob wrote:Actually I think we could do with a few more factual posts in the Tech area, would cut down a lot on my overwhelming desire to make sarcastic remarks about posts that don't belong.



Ahhh, you did fall victum once in the non-factual self-ownage post too, I wouldn't be so snappy jumping the gun onto that one.
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Postby RunningRich » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:56 am

Akane wrote:I did search, and I didn't find much if anything about the oil filter location


There are two types of people on chatboards. One whose knowledge comes from searching the internet, the other whose knowledge comes from experience...
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Postby JT » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:46 am

RunningRich wrote:
Akane wrote:I did search, and I didn't find much if anything about the oil filter location


There are two types of people on chatboards. One whose knowledge comes from searching the internet, the other whose knowledge comes from experience...


Chatboards are all about those with knowledge from experience helping those don't have said experience. Not everyone can go out to their garage and pull down a gen III block to learn said info from. If Akane had a gen III block in his shed, I'm sure he would be out there.

Anyway, back on topic please.
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Postby Al » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:51 pm

fivebob wrote:[Then you'll also need some adjustable cam sprockets, no point in fitting aftermarket cams without them.


I'll have to pull a Yank example of a usdm mr2 with stock fuelling and a td06 kit. Made 275rwhp on 14psi. Put in some HKS 264 cams, straight up on stock gears, and a rather lean 289rwhp on 11psi was the result. I may have missed something but gaining 14rwhp with 3psi less boot is pretty good for a pair of cams with no dyno time.
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Postby GT4 20 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:33 pm

fivebob wrote:Then you'll also need some adjustable cam sprockets


You mean like these? :wink:

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Postby Malcolm » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:41 pm

so uh...what kind of $$ do you want for the pistons?
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Postby blitza » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:38 pm

I had something smart and usefull to say, but forgot after reading all that bitchyness.

Is this to mate with a manual or a lazy? (someone shoot me for not searching)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:40 pm

its an st205, so itl lbe manual
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Postby Adydas » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:23 pm

Mmm, Boost wrote:
All_Fours wrote:So...what happened to the old ACLs?


I believe he's waiting for you to purchase them :D
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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:23 am

fivebob wrote:
GT4 20 wrote:
Al wrote:Are you replacing cams at all?


Yep. 262 HKS jobbies nestling on top of a Lyn Rogers worked head :D

Then you'll also need some adjustable cam sprockets, no point in fitting aftermarket cams without them.

BTW what ECU are you planning on using, and please don't say the stock one... I'd hate to see all this good work turn into a pile of junk.


dont 3ste come with vernier ajustable cam wheels as per standered

and gary i dont meamn to be negative but those cam wheels you have in that pick dont look very ajustable...at all

can you please eplian how they ajust withou the sloted location holes ??

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Postby Malcolm » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:22 am

3S-GTE's aren't really adjustable, but there are different locater pin positions you can use to get some adjustment, IIRC
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Postby GT4 20 » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:54 pm

vvega wrote:and gary i dont meamn to be negative but those cam wheels you have in that pick dont look very ajustable...at all

can you please eplian how they ajust withou the sloted location holes ??

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They are actually slotted - just not very. The washers cover the slots. Sufficient to set up the cams as per the HKS spec sheet though :D
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Postby GT4 20 » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:06 pm

Quite a productive couple of days.

Turbo and manifold were fitted. Sticking with the stock items for the time being.
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Note the WRC extras such as the antilag attachments...
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Lightweight Fidanza flywheel was bolted on...
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... followed by the Xtreme clutch kit...
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Cams were set up last night as per the HKS spec sheet...
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With that done, the cam cover could be bolted into place...
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Next, the transfer case was split from the gearbox to allow it all to be bolted up to the motor...
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With that done, the rest of the wiring loom was attached along with any other brackets etc...
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And with the alternator, PAS and aircon drive belts on, next step is to put the complete unit back where it came from :D
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Postby IH8TEC » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:58 pm

good work, looking very nice indeed, when you planning to have the beast on the dyno?
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