project advice wanted please

[chaser101]

hey guys

im just new to the whole toyota thing, previously a nissan guy until i did a little research for my upcoming project. im looking for a largish 4 door with lots of power. at first i was thinking cefiro with an rb25 but then i found the jz series toyota engines. on paper these seem to kick nissan's arse! is it true in real life? now down to business... i really like chasers, ive noticed a few of these kicking round cheapish, mainly diesel. im thinking ill buy one of these, probably a 90 series one. now i have a contact in japan who owes me a favour .... im thinking ill import a damaged car to provide engine/box and whatever else it can for my chaser. but what should i import? if i was to find a 2jz supra turbo how easily would the engine etc go in? and would all the brakes swap over? (remembering this is an ex diesel car) and would it be worth the extra hassle and cost for a 2jz over a 1jz? i could look for a damaged turbo chaser or soarer...

basically what i need help with is...

1. what would need swapping from a diesel chaser with a major power upgrade? and what possible donor cars would give me these things?

2. 2jz vs 1jz, and installation into a chaser.

3. as a long term thing i might be looking at putting it on lpg (properly) any advice on this matter? ive heard it can work well with turbo engines....

thanks in advance for your help guys! need to learn more about these intruiging toyota's

[ezy10s]

better check but i think the diesel chasers only have a solid rear axles in them, where the rest are independant

[chaser101]

i've had a look and it seems the cheaper 80 model's have solid rear end's including diesels. also strut front suspension. all the 90 series have independant rear and also wishbone front. phew!

[nite b]

Hey, dude..

Good idea. Ditch the Nissans & join the revolution..

1. 90 Shells are pretty much same, Brakes, Diff, etc are quite different. Cant just swap the diffs, need to change halfshafts etc. These are unique to only 1jzgte & 2jzge 90 or 100 series- Supra/Soarer etc Does Not Fit!
Torsen diff is fine for the street if you can find one..
Diesel interior is real spam if you are thinking for a road car...

2. 2jzgte not really worth hassle/money to get over the 1jzgte. The 2.5l will have plenty enough power for ya. Much more capable in factory form than RB25DET. My 1jz single turbo was quicker than my 2jz twin turbo in my 90..
Your going to find the gearbox the expensive part. Use a W55 as easy & miles cheaper to get & replace especially if track use..

3.LPG... WTF!? I guess if you want the hassle... Everyone does have different opinions though so Im not going to go into that.

Just be wary these cars although reliable when done, are not that cheap to play with as parts can be very hard to find, let alone performance parts.. I had to make most of mine.

Do you have a total budget in mind? Prob easy enough to track down running gear in NZ rather than import.

Good luck

[chaser101]

thanks for that! thats cleared alot of stuff up! i think i will import a whole damaged car because i can get it at cost plus shipping, then i can swap everything over (including interior?) and maybe even sell some undamaged body parts... i actually made money doing that with a manual s14 silvia! i guess the demand would be a lot less for parts for these cars though?

so if im wanting to swap everything over what are my options? both the 90/100 series? would you expect the interiors to swap over between different models? also what about mk2's and others on the same platform? what others are there and would everything swap over?

sorry to bombard you guys with questions im just really excited whats the handling like in chasers?

[nite b]

Sweet as,

Interior will swap over. Tourer V or Tourer S interior is best. 90 & 100 have same platforms but interior/panels different. Mk II vs Cresta vs Chaser same deal.
Depends what kind of handling you want.. Track or street. They originally Family/Executive cars remember..
Harder road to go down than an easy old Nissan...

[chaser101]

wow you guys reply fast! puts nissan to shame

it'd basically just be a street car, just so long as there's no chronic handling issues?
so you're saying i'd have to get a 90 chaser for the interior to swap over into the same model diesel? i'd have to get a tourer v for the turbo wouldnt i?

the thing is everyone has a nissan though isnt it? and i like the sound of these engines!

cheers!

[nite b]

yeah, interior & running gear from tourer V is ya best best. Might even be worth just bringing one in as you can still register the late 90series. Lots little stuff that is better than just converting into spam shell..

[chaser101]

what little stuff would it be? i'd basically strip the shell bare and replace everything.. are the cosmetics etc slightly different or something? ill look into the whole car thing but i wouldnt be surprised if i could do it much cheaper with a diesel. thanks for your help!

[gmacrae]

If you've got some serious time on your hands, look into that LPG idea, its an impressive fuel.

Consider injecting it as liquid, straight from the tank, with some sort of line pressure regulator (the tricky bit) and no throttle body, just pedal controlled rail pressure or injection, similar to diesel. Like diesel, you can run ultra lean on LPG without risk of detonation so why bother with a throttle. Engine will run cleaner, cooler egt's, no big deal if your boost spikes. LPG is so much better suited to turbo vehicles than petrol is, just that so few people have the balls to use it... yea im one of them

[chaser101]

yeah im definately gonna have a look into lpg. ive been told its gonna run out long before petrol does though... wheres the best place to get alll the parts you need? i'd be on a budget so second hand if possible!

[fangsport]

yeah im definately gonna have a look into lpg. ive been told its gonna run out long before petrol does though... wheres the best place to get alll the parts you need? i'd be on a budget so second hand if possible!

check the legalities of LPG if you intend to use it on a race track (not sure if you intend to, or not). it's possible that LPG falls into the same exclusion as NOS, as it is stored under pressure, whereas pertol is not.
cars with NOS can only do a 1/4 on an approved dragstrip as far as i'm aware.

[chaser101]

nah it would be my everyday car( partly why im looking into lpg!) wouldn't use it on a racetrack.

are there any major differences between the chaser and the mark 2 of the same model? i prefer the look of the mk2 but are there as many diesel ones round?