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Postby trd-drifting » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:01 pm

Hey i am just wondering how much work would it to be to find a ct26 turbo and bolt it up to a 7m. Would it be a misson and would i b better to get a 7mgte and drop that in instead of converting it to a 7m turbo. Would there be a better turbo to bolt on to is it a straight bolt on if i can sorce the right parts. i would love a jz motor but as i am only 17 i have very limited money as i still go to school. Whats my best option how much better would it perform on my ma70, and how much estimate would it cost me as you can get a c26 for round the 2hundy mark, but then you have all the sensors etc.. on top of that and the manifolds. Any comments would b mint thanks
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Postby wde_bdy » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:10 pm

By the time you source all the parts, you might as well get a 7M-GTE or better yet sell your car and buy a factory turbo MA70. Then once you have sorted the potential head gasket issues with the 7M-GTE you should have just bought a JZA70.
Generally speaking, if the factory built it then it is easier and cheaper to buy the factory version.

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Postby ae82 gt 4 us » Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:49 pm

I have a complete engine to sell but has as mentioned the normal issue of blown head gasket and pourous block to be repaired all parts there including wiring loom, out of an auto jap supra.
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Postby trd-drifting » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:32 am

im just thinking about the option thats all, Just one more question is there any difference between the 7M and 7MGTE beside the ecu and turbo haha but like is the compression lower and do they have different pistons as im ive found a guy that got a 7mgte thats done a head gasket and i was wondering if it would be just a straight bolt on (Changing the head gasket and torquing down the head) and swaping the ecu's over. etc... or not would there be any complications i no there is complications with lotsa stuff as i just has converted my mkiii to manual but yeah. comments would be gud. Sweet
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Postby dash » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:33 am

we've done a turbo conversion to a 7mGE. The W58 even held up fine. I'm sure the short geared diff=lotsa wheel spin, helped that.
Purchased used ct26 + manifold + 440s + pistons, all dirt cheap.
Metal head gasket & ARP fasteners... end of head gasket worries.
Because we knew tuning was in the future, went straight to standalone, rather than pizin about with hk$$$ electronics and add ons.
sdsefi.com eliminates the dizzy (mod crank pulley + pickup). $1100usd
D.i.y. tuned, on 720cc injectors saw t4 @30psi sometimes. Never had a single tuning related problem. Motor was powerful and reliable.
Owner was stubborn and didn't change the rod bearings in the 17year old motor.. so they died eventually. Got another ge/switched pistons.
ct26 hybrids only cost $475 in the u.s. and make 450+whp, still internally gated. Excellent street car upgrade.
Had to get a good clutch obviously.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:23 am

ct26 hybrids only cost $475 in the u.s. and make 450+whp,





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Postby Silent Knight » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:27 am

Mr Revhead wrote:
ct26 hybrids only cost $475 in the u.s. and make 450+whp,





wait for it.........


I smell a SHITSTORM brewing....
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Postby Malcolm » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:22 am

I reckon - most I've ever seen is 422RWHP:
http://www.7mpower.com/raymond_khublal.shtml

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Postby dash » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:00 pm

shitstorm ? why ?
whats wrong with a ct hybrid ?
422 highest? Not even close.
Here is another example to chew on (found it in seconds);
http://www.jblmk3.com/id97.htm
437hp & 469 ft-lbs of tire shredding torque at the wheels! - that is where the magic lies. Peak horsepower doesn't begin to tell the whole story for a street car anyway. MOST folk -think- it does tho.
Setup is far from optimum. Still toyota electronics. 60 trim intead of the popular, higher flowing 60-1
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:05 pm

many ppl have come on here with silly claims about ct26 turbos. as of yet not one has made the power they said they could
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Postby Al » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:07 pm

Be careful Revhead, the supra ct26 is an entirely different turbo than the mr2 one.
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Postby vvega » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:14 pm

very different animal indeed
the ex a/r works out to be about .86 instead of the .48 on the 3s one
the compressor is also larger...


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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:14 pm

i know. also the 7m is much larger than the 3s. but i still dont see any proof there.
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Postby Akane » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:15 pm

The Supra CT26 nearly owned me @ meremere :evil:
No "stance", no "hellaflush", none of that bullshit. Nothing but no grip on full boost.
http://www.lol.co.nz/ random shit.
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Postby vvega » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:46 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:i know. also the 7m is much larger than the 3s. but i still dont see any proof there.

there is a bit around of this combo.......
seriously
a t04 and supra houseing ct26 is surpost te be quite a substantual turbo

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Postby trd-drifting » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:09 pm

sweet thanks heapz that is all i wanted to know.
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Postby dash » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:42 am

well... shame on those who came here making silly claims, but no need to rely on them. Figure it out yourself.
Exactly what aspect of a ct hybrid raises doubts about 450 ?
Require any more proof than this simple example ?
Reckon standalone/tuning will produce considerably more power output ?
Checkout that piping and intercooler... another proven hp theif.
Look at the 'modest' boost the 437hp comes at. Think its maxed out ?
Compare to a straight T4/60trim, and you'll see very similar output vs boost - that tells you the CT compressor housing and hotside works.
60-1 has dyno'd 500+whp on many 4 and 6cyl. Honestly believe 450 is a prob for a ct/60-1 hybrid ?
Clipping the turbine wheel and porting the wastegate passage net you gains also, just like any other hybrid/oe.
There is -substantially- more untapped power in the above setup.

In any event, ct hybrid can be an excellent performing street turbo, for reasonable cash outlay. A great "stepping stone" to keep you entertained until you're ready to build that monster.

A good friend has a mkII supra 7mgte transplant, custom header and standalone. On spoolup in third gear it can send the tires up in smoke just from throttle - and thats with a 3.7 diff. Pulls hard throughout (when it hooks), with a broad fat torque band. Dam near the perfect setup. Top shelf performance... incredible when price considered.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:49 am

Require any more proof than this simple example


um yeah.... as all youv posted is an add for a turbo.... no actual dyno plots, pics of the car etc...
im not saying its not real.... but unless im missing something you havnt actually posted an example :?
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Postby HELBND » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:00 am

http://www.jblmk3.com/index.htm

links to the dyno runs are there, havent watched them yet, couldnt be bothered but im sure someone will be interested :)
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Postby Silent Knight » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:01 am

Pffft....It's a 7M. Who really cares? :lol:
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