got new tires on back and old ones on front (fwd) :(((((((((

[agressor]

this is bad idea isnt it, i just got new ones on the back and now it feels like its worse to drive but maybes its just placebo effect but when i was cruising a buck 20 and turned sharpe it felt real bad handling.

is it a real minus on handling to have grippier bad tires on a FWD car?

[HELBND]

grippy tires = good on ANY car

[agressor]

yeh but it would be better if i swapped the new ones to the front and old ones to the back on a FWD tho

[Silent Knight]

yeh but it would be better if i swapped the new ones to the front and old ones to the back on a FWD tho

If you already knew that why did you nead to start a new thread to ramble on about it?

[agressor]

cause im checking to make sure, so would it be wise to swap the new tires on the back with the older ones on the front?

[Silent Knight]

cause im checking to make sure, so would it be wise to swap the new tires on the back with the older ones on the front?

If it's FWD then yes...it's always better to have the better tyres on teh front as you steer with the front.

Actually this is the case in RWD aswell. Preferably you should have good tyres all round but if you only have crappy ones then put the best two out of the crappy ones on the front.

[Stealer Of Souls]

Latest recommendation by most places is to put the best on the back. This is regardless of drive type.
This reduces the likelihood of the back doing something untoward, and because most people can handle understeer better than ovesteer.

[agressor]

Latest recommendation by most places is to put the best on the back. This is regardless of drive type.
This reduces the likelihood of the back doing something untoward, and because most people can handle understeer better than ovesteer.

so they recommend the way i have it?? cause i found it seemed harder

whats understeer and whats oversteer

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

whats understeer and whats oversteer

www.google.co.nz
use it!

[tomo1985]

When I worked at mag and turbo we always put the best to the front, not only does this make it handle better but your going to stop alot faster aswell. Always but best to the front.

[gordon77]

Stealer Of Souls:
thats silly man, think about your breaking distance. in most cars the break bias is greater at the front.
good tyres should be on the front for conering and breaking purposes. and as long as there is tread (not slick) there is still grip...

[agressor]

do tire shops swap the wheels around for cheap?

[Silent Knight]

do tire shops swap the wheels around for cheap?

Call them and bloody ask!!!

[Lanius]

do tire shops swap the wheels around for cheap?

It won't cost much, but you should probably learn to do this yourself. Its one of the easiest bits of work you can do on a car yourself. All you need is your car jack (a trolley jack would be far easier, but will cost a bit more, and is bigger to cart around that a normal jack), a couple of jack stands, and the necessary tools to remove the wheels (which should have come with the car).

[Ako]

This amazing device enables you to remove and swap wheels all on your own - no more paying for a tyre shop to do it!

I can supply one for a small donation

OR read this --> http://www.valvoline.com/carcare/articl ... 2&scccid=3

[agressor]

This amazing device enables you to remove and swap wheels all on your own - no more paying for a tyre shop to do it!

I can supply one for a small donation

OR read this --> http://www.valvoline.com/carcare/articl ... 2&scccid=3

nice shoes pal

[Ako]

Its a random picture I found online. Actually from the website I found for the purpose of explaining to you how to change the tyres on a car.

Last thing you should be doing is trying to make your car go faster I think

[Mr Revhead]

yes tyre shops generally fit best to rear.

and yes understeer is best for the masses, hence why stock cars understeer and not oversteer

[Stealer Of Souls]

Stealer Of Souls:
thats silly man, think about your breaking distance. in most cars the break bias is greater at the front.
good tyres should be on the front for conering and breaking purposes. and as long as there is tread (not slick) there is still grip...

It's not as silly as it sounds...
E.G:
You're very confidently driving your FWD rolla along (cause your good tyres are on the front) the motorway at 100kph (aren't we law abiding!) and it's pouring with rain. You approach a fast bend. No problem. 100kph in the dry easy. These front tyres are brilliant and won't have any issues with the rain...
And you're right. Mid corner you hit a HUGE puddle, but your nice front tyres just plow through without missing a beat. But then you're not so good rear tyres hit that puddle. WHAM. Massive amounts of aqua-planing. The rear end shifts suddenly and violently as it skips across the top of the puddle. The car is now a good 10 degrees off axis when the rear tyres leave the puddle and re-connect with the ground. But it's 100kph, and it's still wet. It's all over as the momentum of the car keeps the rear tyres skidding violently. The car spins and smashes into the centre barrier.
Your parents visit you in the hospital as you nurse some minor injuries (man, we're a lucky bunch). Good thing you were wearing a seat belt.

Imagine the same scene but as a RWD... It's probably a whole lot uglier...

If you've got the crappier tyres on the front, you'll know all about it and compensate with the way you drive. You'll drive slower, and be more conservative.
EG:
Same scene, but because the car felt dodgy due to puss tyres on the front you're only doing 80kph. When you hit that puddle and start to aqua-plane (this time the front end) you react and back off the throttle and try to compensate. When your front tyres leave the puddle surface and rejoin the road you're going slower (less than 80kph and slowing even more) and the chances are they'll regain full grip, in time to pull you through the corner. The back is fine since it's got the good'uns on there.
After crapping yourself due to that experience (the fear of paying the insurance excess) you decide to take corners slower...

I believe this is the reason that they are recommending best tyres on the back (contrary to original thoughts).
Remember, you can always feel what the front wheels are doing. Where-as the rear tyres may be doing something long before you can feel what's going on...

[deaf_rattle]

id rather the rear wheels to aquaplane than the front.
bloody scary when the front of a car goes sideways in the wet. (fwd car)

i put my new tyres on the front of my fxgt and the 2 best of the old 4 on the rear.

even on rwd i would put the better tyres up front.

id rather steer and have good brakes than traction.

but these points have been raised already