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Postby Brick » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:08 pm

can this work? saw Andy7447 BOV setup on his top mount (3sgte) so would it work on my s/c?
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Postby CozmoNz » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:23 pm

Short answer nope.
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Postby DB4G63 » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:49 pm

Ok Why would you need a BOV on a supercharger?

Superchargers dont tend to build up the pressure, its based on how fast they are spinning, so theres no release off excess boost... or "Pissssssssshhh!"

However my GTZ when I bought had a turbo timer.... shows how little people know about the old roots blower....
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Postby Brick » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:53 pm

DB4G63 wrote:Ok Why would you need a BOV on a supercharger?

why not :)

o well was worth a try
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Postby no_8wire » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:55 pm

Why would you want one? "bling" factor?


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Postby Rick » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:57 pm

I am going to be running a BOV on my ZE powered AE85, but I am not going to be using the factory setup the t/body is going to be after the supercharger which is why I need a bov. Tim has one in his ZE powered ae86.

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Postby Mr. Mainstream » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:46 am

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Postby dash » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:07 am

interesting setup Rick
Is that pipe stickin up to the side for the air cleaner ?
Which SC do you have ?
The stock ze induction is a compact package, but some claim restrictive. Is that the reason you went with the tb after the sc arrangement ?

When you look at the impressive results miata guys get from their various add-on superchargers... it really seems worthwhile, and something I may wanna try on my spare gze just for kicks.
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Postby beeker » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:23 am

Rick wrote:I am going to be running a BOV on my ZE powered AE85, but I am not going to be using the factory setup the t/body is going to be after the supercharger which is why I need a bov. Tim has one in his ZE powered ae86.



I was gonna say that. Tim ran hybrid SC12 setup and had ~122wkw at the wheels. He has (or had) some of his bits on trademe now.
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Postby Rick » Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:41 am

That isn't my setup, but I can answer your questions, the pipe up the side is where air is sucked into the supercharger, I dont think tim runs a air filter, on his setup he has a SC12 supercharger.

dash wrote:The stock ze induction is a compact package, but some claim restrictive. Is that the reason you went with the tb after the sc arrangement ?


I feel that the factory setup is quite restrictive, and the factory top mounted intercooler is a joke, but it is all a compromise, to fit a different less restrictive setup into fwd cars etc.. would be costly and in fwd format there is just not enough room, but when in a rwd this allows more room and the factory setup can be changed for a less restrictive one and the reasons I have the t/body in my setup after the supercharger is that Iam using a intake manifold from a N/A 4age, which has the t/body on the end of the plenum chamber, I think Tim said that it make it more responsive having the t/body after the supercharger.
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Postby soopachargen » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:42 am

I'm doing the sam with my sc14 gze in my front drive rolla. Im gonna use a custom plenum and im considering a 20v head for what looks like a higher port exit angle on the head which may help to clear the charger better. I'm hoping to get away with a gts-t BOV recirculating into the intake after the AFM and a TPS activated switch for the charger clutch. Still yet to decide on a computer but leaning towards a Link.
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Postby gdsup » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:44 pm

this maybe a better view

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The throttle body was moved to after the supercharger, like a n/a type manifold, done soley for throttle response.
The supercharger builds so much pressure on lift off that you need really good intercooler piping and joiners, and a large blow off valve.

but please noobies note this or any bov wont work on a standard type setup, and the reponse is so sudden makes it a slut to drive on the street
( bov is freakin noisey tho :P )

this is run using standard ae92 DLI ecu

boogergrom - when supercharging n/a cars at a shop i used to work at, we would use a vacum switch that operated at around 3-5 inchs of vacum via a relay to switch it on, abit less abrassive on the supercharger clutch than tps switching

runs no air filter just bellmouth, good for induction noise + if the air is clean enough for me, its clean enough for the car
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Postby soopachargen » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:04 pm

so do you reckon mine will be horrible to drive on the street tim??
any thoughts of a way to get around this??
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:41 pm

if the air is clean enough for me, its clean enough for the car


yeah but you have built in filters whereas ya car doesnt
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Postby gdsup » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:37 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:yeah but you have built in filters whereas ya car doesnt


well, i usually let my motors overheat, run big ends or det to the point they blow up 1st, so yeah im the sceme of things... :lol:

besides, the supercharger should mince any dirt into very fine particles, and the intercooler will catch the big chunks that slip thru :wink:

bogergrom - They biggest plenium you can have will help, but yeah the instant drive of the supercharger is crazy, bov gets mega surge at half throttle, unless in high rpm its a bit of a on off system - but in saying that i had relitively short runners (perhaps 80-100mm ) and 2.5 in plenium
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:56 pm

:lol: well when u look at it that way.....
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