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Postby dougsop » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:00 pm

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-DYNO @ 150KW
TOP OF THE LINE MODEL WITH THE 3SGE MOTOR.
This is quicker than a standerd GT4 Celica.


i foudn this on trade me wat do u people think ? i m not so sure thats why i ask :D

if this is true i m starting to think my GT4 st205 is a peice of shit LOL (jks)
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Postby Alex B » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:03 pm

FYI everything you read on the internet is true.
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Postby Malcolm » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:13 pm

150kW? You would get that out of a Beams engined one (which this isn't), but not at the wheels, and the only gt4s it's going to be faster than are stock st165 and st185s
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Postby Adamal » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:30 pm

Yea, 150KW made me double take... :?

Is that from an auction or something? Got a link?
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Re: 3SGE faster than 3SGTE ? LOL lets discuss this ~~

Postby matt dunn » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:32 pm

dougsop wrote:-DYNO @ 150KW


Easy, 100kw at the wheels, and 35% drivetrain loss = about 150kw.
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Postby Adydas » Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:09 pm

Its all relative tho, you cant mesure a GT4 at the wheels and a curren at the motor and say its got more power.

Its not apples for apples is it.
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Postby dougsop » Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:45 pm

lol i just dun understand why would that guy say FASTER than a GT4 ~ hehe
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Postby Malcolm » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:02 am

because he's a $&#$% trying to sell his car with ridiculous bodykit to a retard who doesn't test drive it first to see it's not fast at all.
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Postby FYADUP » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:06 am

ahahaha what a crock of !%$@. theyre slow, i bet one of those cars when my Gti rolla was NA, only 100 kw at thew wheels ahaha. and i had and extra person
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Re: 3SGE faster than 3SGTE ? LOL lets discuss this ~~

Postby GT4 20 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:12 am

matt dunn wrote:
dougsop wrote:-DYNO @ 150KW


Easy, 100kw at the wheels, and 35% drivetrain loss = about 150kw.


That's if it was 4WD, but a Curren isn't :wink:
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Postby Jazza » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:14 am

Not sure about that curren, but mine has a double plate and a short shift close ratio box... They were in it when it was imported... that doesnt help the torque, but it does make it a lil quicker...
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Postby vvega » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:22 am

i can tell you there not faster than a 165 :D
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Postby dougsop » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:37 am

i think they feel fast but they dun go fast ~ coz i have a 2.2L manual SSII as well as a GT4 st205 when u ar traveling at around 50 u feel like u ar going 80 while on a GT4 u go around 80 u feel like u ar doing 50 :D i bet that guy never looked at the speedmeter :P LOL
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Postby sergei » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:04 am

N/A cars don't feel fast. 20V / 3SGE feel very flat compare to 3SGTE.
where 3STGE pulls, GE struggle, where GE pulls, GTE still ok.
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Postby blackie » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:49 pm

Purely and simply.. the guys a knob.
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Postby sigma » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:55 am

blackie wrote:Purely and simply.. the guys a knob.


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Postby jiranz5 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:12 pm

dougsop wrote:i think they feel fast but they dun go fast ~ coz i have a 2.2L manual SSII as well as a GT4 st205 when u ar traveling at around 50 u feel like u ar going 80 while on a GT4 u go around 80 u feel like u ar doing 50 :D i bet that guy never looked at the speedmeter :P LOL

Not quite on topic here but I would like to point out that there's no such thing as a true 2.2litre SS2. It is in fact a Celica GT with a 5s-fe engine as the SS2 came with the 2litre 3s-ge engine. the 2.2 litre 5s-fe motor produces 135 horsepower at peak while the 2.0 litre 3s-ge produces 180 Bhp at peak.

As for the topic, it would be difficult for any N/a ports car to keep up with a turbo sports car unless it had some MAJOR work done to it. In which case you'd be better off buying a turboed sports car and doing some minor mods to it thereby gaining more performance and generaly longer lifespan and reliability. (well thats my opinion anyway)
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Postby RomanV » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:47 pm

Glenn AKA Celica RA45 is making 180kw at the wheels, with a 3SGE...

Which has a rather nice torque curve too, considering.

Enough to give a few turbo engines more than a scare, that's for sure.

That isnt to say that it hasnt had an obscene amount of money/work/time spent on it however....
You could make the same power (if not more, and with far more torque) for MUCH less with a turbo engine.
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Postby GT4 20 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:33 pm

jiranz5 wrote:Not quite on topic here but I would like to point out that there's no such thing as a true 2.2litre SS2. It is in fact a Celica GT with a 5s-fe engine as the SS2 came with the 2litre 3s-ge engine. the 2.2 litre 5s-fe motor produces 135 horsepower at peak while the 2.0 litre 3s-ge produces 180 Bhp at peak.


Pretty sure that the 2.2 Celica was the only ST202 version available as New Zealand new (may have been a few BEAMS powered cars later on). Also, that 's the same model that the US market received.
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