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Postby Ae92typeX » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:13 am

vvega wrote:
LEV_101 wrote:na cars need back pressure. if it was turbo then thats a different story.



sorry mate thats a comon falacy

providing you can attually tune your car to take advantage backpresure is just a restriction

v


Unless you have a 2stroke car! (I had one afew years ago)lol.
Essentially, (but not in totalaty) back pressure is part of the exhaust system which is not flowing efficently.
theres even an equation to measure power reduction 'due solely to back pressure induced pumping losses' (rererenced from David Vizzard)

HP Lost = BP (in psi) x Stroke x Piston Area (of all 4 cylinders) x RPM /(all divided by) 792,000.

With a system with back pressure, the engine is producing power (or wasting it) simply to expell the back pressure from the cylinders.

Of corse, that is going off topic a little as it is not including the exhaust design, or loss through scavenging, or cam design. But, in generaly, represents the minimum loss you will get from backpressure on a given engine.

Its quite an indepth topic really, and im sure there are others on here who can explain it better than myself.

Using the term sports or bigbore is really using terms people take/understand differently, as can be seen throughout the post. I guess, technically, you can say you have a big bore sports exhaust- but then one has to ask, going by the pictures above, do you view a big bore simply as a 'large exit' cannon, or if the whole system is enlarged?

Although not the best around, this is a useful link for more exhaust reading:
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscellaneo ... theory.htm
Cant believe im still a member here.

http://toyspeed.blakjak.net/profiles/profile.php?id=113
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Postby vvega » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:46 am

very sure

2 strokes use presure waves developed buy the "expansion camber"
they slao beifite from no back pressure but backpressure has noting to do with presure waves other than altereing teh speed at witch they travel :D

i build chambers for a wile while i was playing with 2 strokes so have much real world experince with them

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Postby EVL20V » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:54 pm

get a vtec au!

or ur best bet, is a 2.5" system, 1 reso, and the biggest muffler for style points and noise :D
60% of the time it breaks every time
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Postby LEV_101 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:07 pm

ok i readed the link ... mmm i take back what i said :oops: ...

then why would people make 4 > 2 > 1 headers ?

why not just keep it all 4 > 1 ???
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Postby vvega » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:09 pm

because combining can give better scavanging in the midreange

peak power is done with 4 into 4 just nothing like 4 tuned pipes
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