help: advice on engine conversion on toyota vitz

[Playbaby]

i have a friend who's going to do a engine conersion on his 02 vitz, and he needs some help from u guys

he is abel to get 3s-ge and 3s-gte, and will they all fit vitz with standard engine mounts? or some other toyota engine is better to fit?
and will they standard gearbox ok for the conersion, or it can use 3s-ge or s3-gte's gearbox?

all advice will be appreciated

[sergei]

Are you jocking?
measure up 3SG(T)E and 1NZFE (or whatever the engine is in VitZ) and see the difference, no you defenetly cant use original engine mounts or gearbox. If it is possible (reasonbly) to fit 3S in a vitz I guess, you will have to use custom gearbox/shafts (width of Vitz is much less than celica/corona) plus you will have move firewall and bumper space, as these engines are wider as well. Anything is possible with lots of money...

[Playbaby]

Are you jocking?
measure up 3SG(T)E and 1NZFE (or whatever the engine is in VitZ) and see the difference, no you defenetly cant use original engine mounts or gearbox. If it is possible (reasonbly) to fit 3S in a vitz I guess, you will have to use custom gearbox/shafts (width of Vitz is much less than celica/corona) plus you will have move firewall and bumper space, as these engines are wider as well. Anything is possible with lots of money...

thx for the info man, and i agree with u, with lots money, there is possible, ^^

yeah, i've no idea about toyota's engine conversion, my mate wants to do conversion on his vitz, and he let me to ask here, and he said someone told him 3s-ge will bolt on his vitz, and he doesn't have account here, so i got this topic here, and do u no any other engine would direct fits into vitz?

[BZR4AGE]

in china, there is engine conversion of vitz with a 4AGE blacktop or silver top, and it will fit, the only adjustments u need to make is remove the airbox and instead use trumpets or socks. They actually work quite well, although 20v may not produce as much power as a 3sge, but with the light body weight, maybe able to surprise some levins out there.

[Jazza]

Sell it, buy a gt4 or mr2

[barryogen]

you may be able to do a 2zz engine in it, but you'd be pushing fitting that in there too.

[Punter]

you may be able to do a 2zz engine in it, but you'd be pushing fitting that in there too.

I know of one of those being built, It requires a fair bit of persuading but yes it will fit.

[Playbaby]

sweet as, thx for all advice, u guys r pro

in china, there is engine conversion of vitz with a 4AGE blacktop or silver top, and it will fit,

how many horse power can 4age get with some little modify?

you may be able to do a 2zz engine in it, but you'd be pushing fitting that in there too.

what is 2zz off a car?

[Leon]

I would sell a kidney to get an Echo / Vitz with a 2ZZ or suchlike in it.

Leave it on little steel wheels with hubcaps on, and scare people with it.

Fricken awesome.

[barryogen]

you may be able to do a 2zz engine in it, but you'd be pushing fitting that in there too.

what is 2zz off a car? [/quote]

2zzge, out of a RunX or latest model Celica, 1.8L 180HP NA.

[Malcolm]

how about a v6?
I reckon a 4efte might fit reasonably easily and can make some reasonable power. Pretty light so less of a lead-tipped-arrow than it would be with a behemoth 3s in there

[Stu-]

5efte! 4e's are old news.

[Malcolm]

5efte! 4e's are old news.

yeah yeah, same thing except if you say 4efte then you don't have to answer questions about what the 5efte is from

[Stu-]

Good thinking batman

[Psycho_Dad]

why not just turbo the current engine? honestly price up mounting and crap, and compare it to an afm computer and a blower of sorts....

Evil_Si can do conversions, he changed my 13b powered chevron to a 13b-rew powered one, much respect

honestly, id learn more about the current setup and mod it to suit

PEace
Psycho_Dad

[Mr Revhead]

whats a 5efte from?


yes 4age does fit, and it does take some custom work

not impossible thought

[TRD Man]

Yes, a 2ZZGE has been done before. But not without some substantial chassis modifications. These may render the car unregisterable if you can't get an engineer's certification.
A 3SGE is possible. In fact we're looking seriously at this option ourselves right now having decided the previously planned 20V wouldn't produce what we were looking for.
I would be happy to compare notes.

cheers
Bruce

[fangsport]

decided the previously planned 20V wouldn't produce what we were looking for.

.......what was that you looking for?? real power or something

[TRD Man]

Yes Joe. The prospect of building our own version of an S1600 car was exciting but on reflection if we're to be competitive in K2 we need 2L +.
Come to think of it I need to lose 30lbs and do some jogging too.
But back to the motor, it's the torque you see. So essential in a gravel rally car. With some very minor mods the 3SGE provides this in spades.

[adamkerrnz]

just stick a blitz blower on it