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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:37 am

Hey there guys, looking at doing a freshen up on my engine. Just would like to know what would be good to replace and if it would be easier to do with engine out or left in?

Things Im looking at so far are:

VVt Pulley (Its kicked the bucket :lol: )
Head Gasket
Plugs
Leads (maybe)
Dizzy Cap
Water Pump
New oil and filter of course
Power Steering belts
Oil seal round rocker cover

Anything else??

And engine is a 20v Silvertop

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Postby cr1mnl » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:50 am

cambelt

i wouldn't worry bout the head gasket unless you are taking the head off for some other reason
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Postby sergei » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:58 am

Cam/crank shafts oil seals. again there is no need to replace head gasket (unless it is blown), as to do it properly you will need to machine the surfaces . BTW your high idle problem maybe due to fact that VVT pulley is jammed..
Also don't bother getting fancy plugs or leads, as stock ones (genuine) works the best. (Mr Revhead can do you a good deal on all of the bits)..
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Postby Caveman » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:06 pm

If the head is fine leave the gasket, unless you want to go metal.

Do dizzy rotor as well
redo shims (if its noisey)
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Postby Adydas » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:32 pm

DO THE CRANK SEALS!!! Trust me youll kick your self if you dont relace that like $3 seal, same with the other end.

Thats my biggest word of advice from my learnings haha, heres a list of what ive done if its any help..

Valve stem seals.
cam seals
cam cover seals
head gasket
crank seals
sump re sealed
TTE Metal head gasket
idler bearing
tensioner
cam belt
water pump
spark plugs
leads
Dizzy
Rotor
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:59 pm

depends on your budget and level of ability really. if you are pulling it out of the car do the crank seals for sure.. the extra $20 spent now is worth it. and personally it's much nicer working on an engine stand than reaching down between the end of the motor and the chassis trying to get that cambelt on.

i've just done a complete rebuild on a silvertop
Head bolts ~$30 (revhead)
Head set ~$100 (Revhead)
Waterpump~ 80 (Revhead)
Cambelt ~$30 (revhead)
tensioner - cant remember
ACL race bearings big ends and mains $160
Rings $100
ACL conversion set (oil pump gasket, rear seal cover gasket, crank seals etc) about $35
Machining - valve seats, block honed and head skimmed 30 thou $(too much)
Spare shims for reshimming valves - $1 pinch-a-part entry fee
and lots and lots of time.
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Re: What should be replaced????

Postby Zyros » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:24 pm

20v_rollaboy wrote:Hey there guys, looking at doing a freshen up on my engine. Just would like to know what would be good to replace and if it would be easier to do with engine out or left in?

Things Im looking at so far are:

VVt Pulley (Its kicked the bucket :lol: )
Head Gasket
Plugs
Leads (maybe)
Dizzy Cap
Water Pump
New oil and filter of course
Power Steering belts
Oil seal round rocker cover

Anything else??

And engine is a 20v Silvertop

Thanks guys :)


Clean the air filter?
Replace the fuel filter too maybe.
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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:48 pm

Ok so maybe I wont replace the head gasket :wink:

And I have a new fuel filter for it. I am using iridiums at the moment so I`ll just buy some new ones. Cambelt was replaced last month so no need for that.

To replace the crank seals do I just have to take the sump off and the oil pump??

Gearbox is coming off as its being replaced with a GT one. Im still using the box off the "fe and its crunching a bit.

Should I bother doing anything to the head? Like replacing anything?

And I will be doing this myself, as I think Im more than capable :)

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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:30 pm

cambelt tensioner
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Postby gepsk8 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:41 pm

while off general service on starter(brushs if needed & cleanout etc) and Alt(brushs & bearings if noisy)
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Postby sergei » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:57 pm

The front crank shaft seal is behind the cambelt sproket, there is no need to take off oil pump or sum.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:58 pm

oh and the standard platinums wil be fine, iridiums are just unnessacary cost
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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:41 am

Mr Revhead, how much is a new oil pump?

Reason I ask is that my oil light comes on for about 10s when I first start the car, but after that its sweet.

Also should I be looking at replacing the thermostat?
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Postby Chickenman » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:54 am

That could be your bearings dude, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to do those too, not so hard. Shouldn't cost more than $100 last car we did was a 323 was something like $90 from BNT for mains and bigends.
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Postby Caveman » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:02 am

20v_rollaboy wrote:Mr Revhead, how much is a new oil pump?

Reason I ask is that my oil light comes on for about 10s when I first start the car, but after that its sweet.

Also should I be looking at replacing the thermostat?

fark 10 seconds, might want to look into that 8O
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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:05 am

There might be another reason for the light though

Last month when I replaced my cambelt, I cracked my oil pump housing trying to undo the tensioner bolt. So it was replaced my a 2nd hand one I had because I needed the car the next day. So anyway theres this pipe that goes up into the block and it needed a gasket which I ddnt have, so I had to put the old gasket back which was pretty knackered.

This might be the reason Im loosing oil pressure???
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:14 pm

oh the short water hose on the back of the water pump

its a mongrel to do so if doing the pump do it as well
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Postby TrouserFxGt » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:35 pm

1998 wrote:
20v_rollaboy wrote:Mr Revhead, how much is a new oil pump?

Reason I ask is that my oil light comes on for about 10s when I first start the car, but after that its sweet.

Also should I be looking at replacing the thermostat?

fark 10 seconds, might want to look into that 8O


might be a broken anti-drainback valve in the oil filter. It happens.
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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:56 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:oh the short water hose on the back of the water pump

its a mongrel to do so if doing the pump do it as well


Na not that one, this one is in the sump. I think it might be the return or main oil feed
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