AE92 drum to AE101 rear disk conversion?

[Gavin]

Picked up this rear disk conversion from an AE101 GT last time I was in NZ.
I could swear that I had read that these brakes can be swapped onto the AE92, but they look much different from my current setup..

BTW this is a wagon.




What am I missing?
I know the problem isnt that its a wagon because the AE92 brake conversion can be done on my car.
Shouldnt they all be interchangeable than? Or am I just making things up?

Thanks

[KinLoud]

Hi,
I have put AE101 disks onto a AE101 drum corolla, but not onto a AE92.
Do you have any other bits? Or is that all?
You might need the rear track control arm, it will bolt to the rear of the hub onto the long bolt sticking out to the lower left of the bottom pic. This should be similar in length to the arm sticking straight up - however it will be adjustable with a hex adjuster about halfway down its length.
This adjustable arm will be the same as track control arms off drum braked, coil spring rear AE100, AE101 etc corollas.
You will need the brake caliper and handbrake (emergencybrake) cable as well.

Ken
Hamilton
021 408 863

[bluemaumau]

Hi,
I have put AE101 disks onto a AE101 drum corolla, but not onto a AE92.
Do you have any other bits? Or is that all?
You might need the rear track control arm, it will bolt to the rear of the hub onto the long bolt sticking out to the lower left of the bottom pic. This should be similar in length to the arm sticking straight up - however it will be adjustable with a hex adjuster about halfway down its length.
This adjustable arm will be the same as track control arms off drum braked, coil spring rear AE100, AE101 etc corollas.
You will need the brake caliper and handbrake (emergencybrake) cable as well.

Ken
Hamilton
021 408 863

you need the handbrake cable all teh way to the handbrake as its diff on disks

[Gavin]

I have the handbrake cable.. but not the other arm. In the pic though you can see that the position of the front arm is farther forward on the AE101. Whats with that? How could it bolt up?

[bluemaumau]

hmm, the pic looks exactly the same as my ae101 rear disks.

i also did this conversion.

ae101 to ae101 tho

[Gavin]

Has anybody put AE101 rears on an AE92 or AE82?

[sergei]

ae82 are also different from AE92 and AE101, the struts are completely different, so the strut bolt spacing, the swaybar attaches to one of the arms not struts like in AE92-101.

[Gavin]

Well.. I ask that because here in the states people either swap the AE82 or AE92 disks onto my car, as there are no other options, so I know for a fact those are interchangeable.

Here is the guide I followed when picking up the parts:
http://www.ae92gts.com/gze/brake_conv1.html

I had seen another, on an Australian website I think it was, that went into a huge amount of detail about rear disk conversions for the FF AE cars. Thats where I read (L'ess I was on the ""P"") that I could use the AE101 disks on my AE92. Think I found that page off this forum. Anybody have the link? I searched.

So are you saying I couldnt use the AE82 stuff?

[bluemaumau]

the disks will be interchangable( 99% sure)
but maybe not the hubs.

[Gavin]

So are you saying I should get an AE92 conversion and swap over my disks and calipers?

Damn I wish I had that article....

One of you crazy kiwis must have done this if its possible. The guy at Whangerei wreckers insisted they would bolt right up..

[bluemaumau]

hmm, what engine is in your car? factory engine?

[Gavin]

4AFE, we didnt get the EE's here I dont know how you guys can drive those things

Now a Silvertop/GZE hybrid.

[bluemaumau]

my car is a ae101 4afe wagon and ae101 gt-apex (20v) hubs bolted straight up (all 4)

so surely ae92 items will fit yours.

but i cant tell you for sure.

do you not have wreckers in usa?

just go there and compare hubs.

[Gavin]

Oh yes AE92 ones will definitely fit, but what I have is the AE101 brakes and what I was told is that they will work. They are better also, no?

I just want a definite answer about if or how much of this conversion that I have can be used on my car. So what I have gathered so far is that I can upgrade to the AE101 disks/calipers once I have swapped on the AE92 hub, but that I cant use what I have beyond that.
Am I wrong, dead on, what?

Thanks a lot,

[bluemaumau]

yea i cant tell you for sure but, just get ae92 hubs with ae101 disks and callipers.

i dont think they would be much thicker tho,

personally unless its a track car or something special just use ae92 hubs and brakes.

[Gavin]

Well, I want to be making like 300 hp down the road. Planning to get the GTZ front brakes also. I have em, why not.

Thanks!

[KinLoud]

OK - you might also need to get hold of the arm that bolts onto the bottom of the hub and goes forward as in your top picture. Get it off an AE101/AE100 etc. My understanding is that the mounting points where the arms and subframe bolts to the body are in the same position in the AE92 and AE101 - this might be why you where told that "it will bolt straight in"

Do you have the calipers?
Do you have the handbrake cable... if so how much of it?
Do you have AE101 series corollas in the USA?
If you do... are they beam axle or macpherson strut rear end?
If they are macpherson strut buy the arms you need - the rear adjustable arms and the arm that goes forward.

I suspect the only reason that you have the one arm you show in the picture is because the big long bolt that holds it is siezed into the hub and the wrecker couldn't get it out. This happens quite often... use lots of CRC, turn the bolt with a big spanner and tap and work the big bolt out with a hammer (DON"T hit it so hard that the thread gets damaged)

Once we work out what bits you have and what bits you need I am sure we can help you to get the right bits - either in the USA or sent to you from NZ.

Ken
Ham
021 408 863

[bluemaumau]

(DON"T hit it so hard that the thread gets damaged)

bewarned.

i rooted one of my 4 (luckily only needed 2 )

i took the arm off, then put the nut semi on so that the bolt didnt stick thru, then smashed it with a sledgehammer/axe.

CRC is your friend also

[Gavin]

OK so the mounting points are in a different position but I just need the arms..

I have the handbrake cables on either side but I guess I still need to get the thing that thay bolt to under the handbrake from an AE92. I have the calipers. Anything else I need? Our AE101s are strut also.

OK I'll take a look... Thanks a lot guys.