3SGTE into an AE86 ?

[beeker]

I'm just throwing ideas around about an upgrade for my Targa car. Seen plenty of Ae86's with 3sge's, what about a 3sgte from a ST205 (found a nice one).

I already have a W57, and hilux rear end coming. What type of work and cost would be needed to get a 3sgte into the AE86 ?

[Meadzy]

pm GH(i think thats his username), he owns the supergt ae86 that runs a 3sgte, all I know is that if you do say goodbuy to some of the firewall

[Vertigo]

if youre going for 2.0L, why not try a 7AGE? (i know, 1.8L, but its close enough)

[Pelo]

This is a pic of GHs car from the trackday this month:



As you can see not an easy fit! But what an awesome car!

[MR2SIK]

JustinSpiderHolden on here is/has doing/done the same to a AE85, maybe look him up and pm him on details? from the sounds of it hes going pretty hard out with it

[JustinSpiderholden]

hey

that would be yes i am doin this conversion at the moment, so far have got mounts sorted, and tranmission w55 using machined down 1s bell housing, goin to run a hybrid ht18 turbo garagedori styles. Have purchased custom inlet plenium and am goin to see dan marsh for exhaust manifold and down pipe. When you pice of goin 4agte and goin 3sgte they both end up very simlar and the 3sgte gives you a mssive tourqu advantage. Hopeing for around 220-250 kw when complete. Will post up some pics of progress shortly

[Adamal]

if youre going for 2.0L, why not try a 7AGE? (i know, 1.8L, but its close enough)

As a representative for the flat of 4A and 3S, I ask you to please mind your language.

[beeker]

hey

that would be yes i am doin this conversion at the moment, so far have got mounts sorted, and tranmission w55 using machined down 1s bell housing, goin to run a hybrid ht18 turbo garagedori styles. Have purchased custom inlet plenium and am goin to see dan marsh for exhaust manifold and down pipe. When you pice of goin 4agte and goin 3sgte they both end up very simlar and the 3sgte gives you a mssive tourqu advantage. Hopeing for around 220-250 kw when complete. Will post up some pics of progress shortly

Do you have to mod the firewall ?
Is there any 3sgte to watch out for, ie not use ?

[crnkin]

When you pice of goin 4agte and goin 3sgte they both end up very simlar and the 3sgte gives you a mssive tourqu advantage

price would be similar, and talking about torque is all talk, however optimimum power rpm range of the 4age would be better.

Still no denying how farken fast that ae86 is, wholly smokes. And quiet!

[beeker]

When you pice of goin 4agte and goin 3sgte they both end up very simlar and the 3sgte gives you a mssive tourqu advantage

price would be similar, and talking about torque is all talk, however optimimum power rpm range of the 4age would be better.

Still no denying how farken fast that ae86 is, wholly smokes. And quiet!

what do you mean " however optimimum power rpm range of the 4age would be better"

[crnkin]

only just saw your question, a month later...

Well you were talking about mainly 2nd and 3rd gear to us, the 4agte is going to rev higher, just the nature of its bore x stroke. The length of the revs at which the 4agte produces optimimum power will be spread over a few more rpm's, id suspect, than a 3sgte, so you can hold your gears longer without sacrificing lost split times.

With the 3sgte, youd possibly (again i suspect) be in need of changing gears more frequently, and comming out of a corner into another, slapping to 3rd quickly, then back to 2nd, is lost time.

torque is derived from the power and rpm at which it is produced, simply saying the 3s produces more torque is correct, however this doesnt suit the nature of your car's build.

Street driving, maybe.

Thats what me thinks

[Trls250s]

That will be loost putting a 3sgte in a ae85/86 car.

My dad has owned many GT4 celica's st185, now a st205 and they kick you in the balls hard, and they are 4wd.

Nothing beats the scream of a 4age though...

[85AW20v]

From my experience sitting in the silly seat on tarmac rallies, its mainly 3rd,4th and 5th gear work with 2nd for the intersections. The extra torque would mean you might not need to change down as much but a good spread rather than peak power at high revs is more what you will need.

[Silent Knight]

What's it with everyone trying to use a 4AGE or a 3S in their cars.
I want to see more of JZ power!!!

Hrmmm...JZ powered AE86. Would be a WEAPON!!

[KinLoud]

What's it with everyone trying to use a 4AGE or a 3S in their cars.
I want to see more of JZ power!!!

Hrmmm...JZ powered AE86. Would be a WEAPON!!

Well... I guess you could call a Lead Tipped Arrow a WEAPON. I hear arrows are great in a straight line!
He, he, he.

Ken
Ham
021 408 863

[Trls250s]

how would u fit a 1Z in a AE engine bay though. Would need a fair amount of modification...

[Jebus]

how would u fit a 1Z in a AE engine bay though. Would need a fair amount of modification...

Like this

[crnkin]

toight like a toiger

[postfach]

yes please! take off the stock twin turbos and go single turbo, might end up with a little more space for piping on one side..mmmm and put the battery somewhere else. that car must be insane