Caldina 3sgte into gt4?

[TRIKI]

Is it possiable to fit the 3sgte from a Caldina GTT into a St185? im guessing there pretty much the same engine. I know somewhere i can get a cheep altezza engine but seen as how there not east west i thought the GTT unit mite be eaiser to fit. The gt4 only does 165kw stock but the gtt was closer to 191kw on a site i was looking at, torque wasnt much more only about 20Nm but if i can find one for $1200 which is how much the altezza non turbo unit was guna cost.

[Ako]

Why bother?

You'll get that power from the engine you have with a few modifications, and the caldina engine isn't the most suited to modifying on a small budget.

[fivebob]

but if i can find one for $1200 which is how much the altezza non turbo unit was guna cost.

LOL, only a sucker would sell a GT-T engine for anywhere near that, and chances are it wouldn't come with the turbo or ECU. Not that the ECU will be of much use to you anyway.

Budget another $2-5k for the ECU and other issues you'll come across trying to fit a GT-T engine into another car.

[Dell'Orto]

but if i can find one for $1200 which is how much the altezza non turbo unit was guna cost.

LOL, only a sucker would sell a GT-T engine for anywhere near that, and chances are it wouldn't come with the turbo or ECU. Not that the ECU will be of much use to you anyway.

Budget another $2-5k for the ECU and other issues you'll come across trying to fit a GT-T engine into another car.

I know of one for $1700, dont think it comes with loom and ECU though

[Adydas]

I looked into this my self, best bet is ST205 engine but you have about as much chance of finding that, i belive a term i heard was..

" Its like finding rocking horse poo ", if your looking for a powerfull cheap motor id be happy to share some info on what im cooking.

So far my spend is at $2500, for a Gen 3 3sgte - With Forgies and new rods n rings and HKS cams, head rebuild and clean replacment of all seals etc..

But there right, im using an aftermarket ecu regardless but i would Really have to if i used and found a gtt motor.

[Akane]

Does this guy even have a GT4 to start with? He might have a ZR or some crap judging by his posts.

[strx7]

I have GT-T engine in an ST185, its not very possibe if you try to use the factory ecu.

In all honesty if you are wanting to build something, get a 1994-1997 ST202/ST206 type engine )which has oil squirters in the block) put some forged rods and pistons into it, 550cc injectors, aftermarket efi etc etc etc, it'll work out fractionally dearer than trying to get the GT-T engine to go, and you'll have a more capable package at the end of it.

[Adydas]

Have you been looking in my garage strx7 as you seemed to have summed up exzactly what im doing to the T..

I agree tho, i looked into it and ruled it out when considering other options..

[TRIKI]

so im better off just playing with what i have now? I have only had it about 2 weeks, just feels a little slow compared to the r32 GTSt i had, and my r32 was a auto sedan. How much power have you got out of yours so far adydas

[Silent Knight]

How much power have you got out of yours so far adydas

So far he has about 0.0000HP @ Wheels.
It's in pieces in his garage...

[Lanius]

so im better off just playing with what i have now? I have only had it about 2 weeks, just feels a little slow compared to the r32 GTSt i had, and my r32 was a auto sedan. How much power have you got out of yours so far adydas

Probably because the ST185 will weigh roughly 100 to 200kgs more than your R32, and will have a few more restrictions in power delivery (4WD drivetrain vs RWD etc).

The GT-T engines are known to be very sensitive to tuning, and we have had more than one or two members with significant engine trouble after mild modifications, or even as small a mistake as using 91 octane petrol in the car. The older 3SGTEs aren't quite as sensitive, and will take a bit more load before going "boom".

Have a go with the search function, and you'll find a ton of information about not only the Caldina engines, but ST185s, and all the different varieties of 3SGTEs.

[Adydas]

Im awaiting a set of pistons and cams from Japan and America before i can build my car but im hoping to finally create some serious progress after many months putting things off.



Has Silent knight has so nicely pointed out, my cars in a few bits for the present.

How ever with the compleate setup im hopeing for 250kw ATW and apart of me hopes i should be able to produce more than that in the long run how ever ill be happy just to have the car going, its being an expensive and time consuming exercise.

[Akane]

250akwk?

Dude, if you wanted 250awkw why did you get those cams?
your setup should be good for 300awkw all day long.

[Adydas]

haha thanks man, im trying to Aim low shoot high, dont want to be all talk and no walk..

[strx7]

the reason ST215 engines are "sensitive" to tuning is cause they run 9:1 compression not 8.5:1 like most factory turbo cars. which is why when you try to run 18psi with the factory ecu etc with crusty NZ pump gas, you end up with 3 pistons not 4. ANY higher compression turbo engine suffers this, you cant play with upped boost and pump gas in these engines unless you're using an aftermarket efi system to retard the timing where required, the upside is for the PSI being blown into them they'll make more power than a 8.5:1 engine.

Yes GT4's are heavy which is why i'm currently trying to sell my rolling body and am looking for something to transplant my GT-T engine and BRAND SPANKERS new gearbox into........

[TRIKI]

nah i must be another triki. I dont think ill be going to far on my gt4, im starting to look at brake upgrades, just ceramic pads and better rotors plus braided lines, as well as a tyre and wheel upgrade. Im planning on going to performance car Super Lap next feb in taupo and in aucks if it come up here. Does any one know when the next track day at pukekohe is?