Ipod thing

[snwtoy]

Marketing ploy or not, looks like it would have been quite useful.
Did they leave any details about where we can get them?

[Lloyd]

Waiting to hear back from PM about it

[solitaire]

If your talking about the connection for using the ipod in the car be aware that it kills the battery in the ipod cos its continually charging and the ipod is too stupid to stop... im not saying dont do it cos ive got one in each car... its just so easy... sony headdeck can browse through the playlists etc... but it will kill your ipod battery... about 40 bucks for another off ebay

[fivebob]

If your talking about the connection for using the ipod in the car be aware that it kills the battery in the ipod cos its continually charging and the ipod is too stupid to stop... im not saying dont do it cos ive got one in each car... its just so easy... sony headdeck can browse through the playlists etc... but it will kill your ipod battery... about 40 bucks for another off ebay

Err why would it keep charging the battery. The Ipod controls the battery charge by monitoring the voltage levels. As Lion cells (unlike Nicads and NiMHs) like to be kept fully charged it shouldn't be an issue, and if you overcharge them they catch on fire, so I seriously doubt that the charger doesn't switch off.

[Mr.Phreak]

iPod batteries are just crap to start with

[GTCRSHR]

iPods are just crap to start with

wheres the photo of your flap .... i bought the one of that guy on trade me ...


should be here soon thats the rear 90% finished now

[Mr.Phreak]

Ahhh, the dog ate it

Will get on to it tomorrow.

[solitaire]

Err why would it keep charging the battery. The Ipod controls the battery charge by monitoring the voltage levels. As Lion cells (unlike Nicads and NiMHs) like to be kept fully charged it shouldn't be an issue, and if you overcharge them they catch on fire, so I seriously doubt that the charger doesn't switch off.

no, for the most part it doesnt it should but it doesnt... the nanos and videos might... maybe... but i doubt it... anything below that definitely doesnt..... it may have a charge timer but the ipod has very little visibility of the state of the battery, the checmical potential energy stored in the battery and the amount of energy the ipod thinks is stored are two completely different things im afraid....

although to be fair the main problem is that the head decks dont turn off the ipods straight away... so they discharge slightly and then recharge and get memory... which is a bad thing...

the myth the lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries do not get memory is just that, a myth...

I swapped the lithium ion battery with a polymer battery and got over twice the battery life (although that is twice of what it had when i changed it... but it was still about 4 hours over the factory spec). it was brilliant... 3 months on in the car and the battery is poked... i would swap them but their primary use is the cars so theres not much point...

Just be aware and make sure youve read up on how to change the battery when it gets poked... i still thinks its a wicked idea!

[fivebob]

Err why would it keep charging the battery. The Ipod controls the battery charge by monitoring the voltage levels. As Lion cells (unlike Nicads and NiMHs) like to be kept fully charged it shouldn't be an issue, and if you overcharge them they catch on fire, so I seriously doubt that the charger doesn't switch off.

no, for the most part it doesnt it should but it doesnt... the nanos and videos might... maybe... but i doubt it... anything below that definitely doesnt..... it may have a charge timer but the ipod has very little visibility of the state of the battery, the checmical potential energy stored in the battery and the amount of energy the ipod thinks is stored are two completely different things im afraid....

Then the fault lies in the IPod, not the unit supplying the power. It's next to impossible to charge a L-Ion or Li-Po battery without some sort of voltage detection. Lithium batteries are very sensitive to how they are charged, and simply timing the charge won't work. I doubt the IPod does it that way, as I don't hear of any catching fire while charging. Which is what would happen if they were charged beyond their capacity.

To be fair I've noticed that sometimes my IPod Photo doesn't switch from the "charging" to the "charged" icon even when plugged into the IPod charger. I can only assume it's a fault in the charger software, because disconnecting and reconnecting the charger shows the "charged" Icon. Though this is a rare occurrence and certainly doesn't happen all the time.

although to be fair the main problem is that the head decks dont turn off the ipods straight away... so they discharge slightly and then recharge and get memory... which is a bad thing...

the myth the lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries do not get memory is just that, a myth...

Not quite a myth, the "memory" that lithium cells get is from self discharge (though that takes several months), not from charging a battery that hasn't fully discharged, which is the problem with NiCad and to some extent NiMH batteries. This is why you store Lithium cells at 50-70% charge, not fully charged.

What really stuffs Lithium cells is if you discharge them too much, or you charge them at more than 1C. I have Lithium batteries that can discharge at 30C but they still have to be charged at 1C and not discharged below 3volts per cell or they won’t last.