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Postby crnkin » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:23 pm

matt dunn wrote:
The reason links are so hard to tune is that for a small amount of throttle movement and a sligfht change in manifold pressure is a great increase in actual air flow into the engine, which makes the zones very different from one side of the zone to the other while in the same zone.

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Isnt it also because the vacuum between one small throttle body and one cylinder is such a small amount, so the differences between part throttle and full throttle are next to nothing, which is why you need to run a tps as well, such as why karls motor was running so poos?
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Postby QikStarlie » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:51 pm

tune in tps+map. tps till 0psi then map after
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Postby IH8TEC » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:51 pm

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IH8TEC wrote:i tried dummy fitting my new turbo tonight, and it wouldn't fit with that manifold i got, so it will be off to dan to get one made, the turbo is huge, such a tight fit :lol: so will be a bit longer till i get my results up
What Turbo are you upgrading to Brendon?, same as mine?


little smaller on the exhaust side than yours, and not twin scroll.
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:02 pm

theres so many 4agte's around now , just about need their own section :wink:
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Postby ezy10s » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:14 pm

hell yeah give us a 4agte section please
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Postby Bazda » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:22 pm

im glad i dont own a 4age :P
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:23 pm

Bazda wrote:im glad i dont own a 4age :P


theres always one isnt there :wink:
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Postby Crucible » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:31 pm

flygt4 wrote:theres so many 4agte's around now , just about need their own section :wink:
I know of 3 AE92 gtz turbos, and another AE101 gtz turbo in Welly, Yours is the only 20v turbo I know of. Not sure about rear wheel drive cars?.
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Postby crnkin » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:55 pm

Bazda wrote:im glad i dont own a 4age :P


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Postby matt dunn » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:05 pm

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matt dunn wrote: The HKS SSQV BOV's are actually the worst type for leaking actually.
They are fine on low and mid mboost but they dont take high boost even though they apply boost to both sides of the diaphram
Oh Gutted!...Really Matt???I was under the impression that the the more boost you run the better they seal, thats why I just fitted one to mine :cry: . Do you know of people having problems with them at high boost??


Yes. I know someone who spent a LOT of time and money chasing problem which turned out to be the HKS BOV,

and also a few other that had problems and binned them to fix it.
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Postby Crucible » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:38 pm

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Yes. I know someone who spent a LOT of time and money chasing problem which turned out to be the HKS BOV,

and also a few other that had problems and binned them to fix it.


Point taken, its actually a cheap hks copy also not even a genuine jobby :roll: What bov will take will take 20psi? Whats Barry using?

Im binning this ssq if its not going to be reliable and would honestly prefer a reliable plumbback now..... any suggestions?
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Postby Bazda » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:48 pm

i had a fake one on, it seemed to hold the boost at 18psi fine, freds car also has one and it held the boost fine.

Only thing we found was it couldnt vent enough air, the compressor kept surging while the bov was open :? .

So got me self a 50mm Tial one, but the tial 50mm copies also work sweet cos i ran one of those first then sold it to fred cos i needed some bling bling tial to go with my gates :D

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Postby Crucible » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:55 pm

IH8TEC wrote: little smaller on the exhaust side than yours, and not twin scroll.
Cool so your going with a T3/4, What a/r exhaust and what compressor? would be quite interesting to see when you hit full boost,:P
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Postby Crucible » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:20 am

Bazda wrote:Only thing we found was it couldnt vent enough air, the compressor kept surging while the bov was open :?
Ive noticed this with my ssq valve and it didnt make much differance when i adjusted it either, bad compressor surge on low boost and upto 12 psi also.

Bazda wrote:So got me self a 50mm Tial one, but the tial 50mm copies also work sweet cos i ran one of those first then sold it to fred cos i needed some bling bling tial to go with my gates :D

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Other/auction-65251312.htm
Cool....thanks for the link. What type of note does it give when working? Is it the same tone as the one in your video?
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Postby Bazda » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:46 am

yea same tone, the one in the video is the tial copy 50mm.
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Postby gmacrae » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:03 am

those tial 50mm valves are excellent, so are the copys. I've got one on the supra, works great. You just have to file some of the pipe off both sides of the v-band fitting to put more load on the o-ring so it seals perfectly (on the valve and the plumbing fitting).
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Postby CozmoNz » Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:07 am

matt dunn wrote:
True-No-Turbo wrote:
matt dunn wrote: The HKS SSQV BOV's are actually the worst type for leaking actually.
They are fine on low and mid mboost but they dont take high boost even though they apply boost to both sides of the diaphram
Oh Gutted!...Really Matt???I was under the impression that the the more boost you run the better they seal, thats why I just fitted one to mine :cry: . Do you know of people having problems with them at high boost??


Yes. I know someone who spent a LOT of time and money chasing problem which turned out to be the HKS BOV,

and also a few other that had problems and binned them to fix it.


what do you think of the mr2 turbo bovs then out of interest?
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:16 pm

turbo expired at manfield yesterday so these dyno results mean SFA now :D still considering what im going to replace it with
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Postby Al » Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:01 pm

flygt4 wrote:turbo expired at manfield yesterday so these dyno results mean SFA now :D still considering what im going to replace it with


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Postby Crucible » Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:11 pm

flygt4 wrote:turbo expired at manfield yesterday so these dyno results mean SFA now :D still considering what im going to replace it with

This is what you need Jeremy 8)

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T3/4 will serve you well, hmmm and I dont think flow will be a problem either :D
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