ae82 - 4age vs. 3sge?

[levinguy]

so i've been thinking about doing a project.
i would want to use a ae82 as they're light and cheap

as for the engine what do you guys think i should do?
blacktop or gze or a 3sge?

cost is a significant factor

just wanted to know what you guys think i should do?

i don't really wanna go down the turbo path

[deaf_rattle]

go 3sge
20v silvertop would be the cheapest.
but i have been thinking about 3sge in my ae92, torque is your friend

[levinguy]

if i was to go 3sge what would i need?
new mounts, 3sge computer and loom.
what about gearbox/driveshafts?

[Caveman]

Its a mish and will cost you a crap load if your not doing it yourself.

I know two people who have done it now, but both ae92 and 3sgte. PM THA SHZ or I can get you in touch with this other guy whos done it.

The wiring is a bitch but doable, just takes patience and brains.

I think a 4age would be faster than a 3sge anyway. Bang for buck you will definatly get more power out of a 4age.

[levinguy]

so there goes the idea of a 3sge, lol

how about a 4agze? keep it sc and get a bigger pulley
use the lsd gearbox and superstrut brakes?

[deaf_rattle]

Its a mish and will cost you a crap load if your not doing it yourself.

I know two people who have done it now, but both ae92 and 3sgte. PM THA SHZ or I can get you in touch with this other guy whos done it.

The wiring is a bitch but doable, just takes patience and brains.

I think a 4age would be faster than a 3sge anyway. Bang for buck you will definatly get more power out of a 4age.

what 4age are you talking about?
a late model 3sge should take a late model 4age any day of the week.
torque wins races

unless you are talking turbo, but then compare apples with apples

[cr1mnl]

cost is a significant factor

that basically rules out 3sge.

4age will be much cheaper and easier. which one depends on how much $ you have and which engine you can find.

ZE would be the pick if you can find one cos you can always upgrade to turbo later if you want

[matt dunn]

Buy an AE92 with a 4AFE and put a 7A block in it.

Put 7AFE injectors in and leave the rest all standard.

All done. 1800cc conversion. no wiring issues, no mounting issues, and if you want to get away with it no cert needed as you cant tell.

Have done it before.
Matt

[Lanius]

I have an AE82 with a blacktop. I think the car is ugly as sin, personally (its the NZ New liftback model) ... but I love it to bits. I wouldn't trade it (I have had offers of a 4door corolla with 4AGZE, an NA AW11, and an Integra). Its awesome on gas, pulls beautifully when I want it to, and is basically the hell sleeper. Definitely recommend going this way if you can.

If you're on the Shore in the Glenfield area, I don't mind showing you what it can do.

[bluemaumau]

Buy an AE92 with a 4AFE and put a 7A block in it.

Put 7AFE injectors in and leave the rest all standard.

All done. 1800cc conversion. no wiring issues, no mounting issues, and if you want to get away with it no cert needed as you cant tell.

Have done it before.
Matt

hell yea with a blacktop head.

[matt dunn]

Buy an AE92 with a 4AFE and put a 7A block in it.

Put 7AFE injectors in and leave the rest all standard.

All done. 1800cc conversion. no wiring issues, no mounting issues, and if you want to get away with it no cert needed as you cant tell.

Have done it before.
Matt

hell yea with a blacktop head.

If you put a BT head on it you will need to do wiring, ECU, heaps of other shit too. With a 7AFE it's bolt in and go.

[CozmoNz]

7a block? or pistons etc included?

coz yaknow, 7a with 4af rods n pistons... would be a little low on compression

[Bling]

cozzy, do ya really need to ask that? i'm sure Matt knows what hes talking about

[Ae92typeX]

I think to answer helpfully it would help others to give an approx $$$ ammount you can afford and if you will be paying or doing yourself. Its just a bit difficult when people say cost is a big factor.

[gmacrae]

Buy an AE92 with a 4AFE and put a 7A block in it.

Put 7AFE injectors in and leave the rest all standard.

All done. 1800cc conversion. no wiring issues, no mounting issues, and if you want to get away with it no cert needed as you cant tell.

Have done it before.
Matt

I assume you mean buy a ae92 with 4aGE matt?

I like this idea and its simplicity, some questions for ya;

you've done this using stock 4age ecu and 7afe injectors?
have you tried it using stock 4age injectors? (stock maps are rich anyway)
how much bigger are the 7a injectors?
4age are 220cc right?
do you use the stock 7a pistons?
what is the resulting compression ratio approx?
any issues with interferring valves/pistons?
the 7a's most commonly found in the carib's etc right?

Cheers man, any info's appreciated

Gene

[HELBND]

Buy an AE92 with a 4AFE and put a 7A block in it.

Put 7AFE injectors in and leave the rest all standard.

All done. 1800cc conversion. no wiring issues, no mounting issues, and if you want to get away with it no cert needed as you cant tell.

Have done it before.
Matt

I assume you mean buy a ae92 with 4aGE matt?

nope he means 4aFe
came in the ae91s if you want to get really technical, but we knew what he meant

[matt dunn]

7a block? or pistons etc included?

coz yaknow, 7a with 4af rods n pistons... would be a little low on compression

Ok, I did mean an AE91 with a 4AFE not GE,

And I meant replace basically everything from the head gasket down with the parts of a 7AFE,
and then also fit the 7AFE injectors. It will run fine on the 4AFE 1600ccc ECU with the 7AFE 1800cc injectors.

Matt