TRD coil overs = classed as OEM??

[Snoozin]

So in theory it works, I suspect you'd have fun trying to press the issue with the usual militant WOF man at a testing station.

[cynakyl]

because any car that gets imported into the country under goes a certification
and anything like that gets noted down on the checklist. So if you said it came into the country like that then they would have it down against the original import cert that the aforementioned item was on the vehicle. And besides, even if you argue the fact with a wof issuer and they say no you need a cert, how many different people are you willing to pay to get one thatn says yes and passes it. Might as well just get it cert'd for SAFETY reasons. That is the whole point of cert's and wofs afterall. Cause I may have a brand x adjustable suspension that uses the original fittings and be exactly the same in every aspect as a TRD item ( bar the name difference obviuosly) and the rules state that i would need a cert for them. Safer to get a cert i think considering that the whole idea of the check is to make sure it is all bolted up properly and doesnt interfere with anything else. Sure it's $400 odd bucks, but what is that compared to spending time in hospital or dying because you couldnt be bothered forking out some money to make sure your car was safe?
Thats my 2 buck 50 worth.

[fivebob]

because any car that gets imported into the country under goes a certification

No, it undergoes a compliance process, anything that needs certification will still require you to get a cert at an extra cost.

and anything like that gets noted down on the checklist. So if you said it came into the country like that then they would have it down against the original import cert that the aforementioned item was on the vehicle.

I don't think that is the case, and even if it was, that information is not available to the WOF issuer anyway. So you still have to convince them it complies with the VIRM.

[fangsport]

more often than not, when a fresh import goes through compliance, any parts that do not have an appropriate standard marking, or known brand, will need to be replaced with something that does.
eg:
there are many aftermarket lenses that can get a WOF but won't get compliance, due to not having marking.

there is a plant that makes Bridgestone tyres (usually light commercial), that arn't stamped with JIS or other relevant standards.

a heap of brake linings can't be complied in NZ as there is no data available as to there make-up.

i would also imagine a fair whack of aftermarket suspension/steering components would also fall into this category and this is why there is so many sets of coil-overs etc on Trade Me as the dealers, need to return the car to OEM to get compliance and can't be arsed certing it to return it to 'as imported'.

[Alex B]

but what is that compared to spending time in hospital or dying because you couldnt be bothered forking out some money to make sure your car was safe?
Thats my 2 buck 50 worth.

But this is the thing they are made by toyota, so are OE parts, there for are you saying OE parts are not safe, over what toyota says is safe? Its like how the dedicated LPG systems on jap cars fail in this country, they are beautifuly intergrated, yet NZ knows best and fails them as they are not tested to a high enough standard

[soopachargen]

a heap of brake linings can't be complied in NZ as there is no data available as to there make-up.

my friends levin failed compliance for that very reason with TRD pads

[Alex B]

My dads 2000 cefiro failed compliance on rear brake pads, they had nissan stamped on them. Sure do the testing for the publics safty. But i do not see why we should have higher standards than Japan.

[rolla_fxgt]

if the brake pads in question met an approved standard for brakes, which i think there is a jappa standard, which in turn means they're approved for use in NZ as long as they have breaking compound on them.
If the wof guy argues the point ask him to show u in the vir or show him the relavant section of the lvvta guide.
if he still argues take the pads out then & there & break his teeth with them, just to prove that they break things properly
now i wonder if thats a vaild excuse in court.....

[Lloyd]

Probably not since the VIRM is actually only a guide anyway

[Alex B]

if the brake pads in question met an approved standard for brakes, which i think there is a jappa standard, which in turn means they're approved for use in NZ

Really? Since when?

[sergei]

the funny thing is that they chuck away perfectly good pads, and fit chinese $17.95 items, which squeack, are dusty, and gets overheated very fast. Just becuase they have "standard" markings...

[matt dunn]

the funny thing is that they chuck away perfectly good pads, and fit chinese $17.95 items, which squeack, are dusty, and gets overheated very fast. Just becuase they have "standard" markings...

Kinda like the new Braided Brake lines rule.

You are not allowed the screw on ends, but are allowed the crimp on ends.

In 10 years of racing dad has never had a screwed on end come loose.

On the GT40 he is building, he has had 3 Crimp on ends break,
and the cars not even finished yet!!

[fangsport]

if the brake pads in question met an approved standard for brakes, which i think there is a jappa standard, which in turn means they're approved for use in NZ as long as they have breaking compound on them.
If the wof guy argues the point ask him to show u in the vir or show him the relavant section of the lvvta guide.
if he still argues take the pads out then & there & break his teeth with them, just to prove that they break things properly
now i wonder if thats a vaild excuse in court.....

there is a big difference between 'compliance' standards and 'WOF' standards.
when it is complied, the brakes must meet a standard, when you get a WOF, there must be enough pad left, and have even braking capabilities , same with tyres and tread depth.

[cynakyl]

cynakyl wrote:
but what is that compared to spending time in hospital or dying because you couldnt be bothered forking out some money to make sure your car was safe?
Thats my 2 buck 50 worth.


But this is the thing they are made by toyota, so are OE parts, there for are you saying OE parts are not safe, over what toyota says is safe? Its like how the dedicated LPG systems on jap cars fail in this country, they are beautifuly intergrated, yet NZ knows best and fails them as they are not tested to a high enough standard Rolling Eyes

Im not saying that toyota parts aren't safe, im merely saying that the whole point of a cert is to make sure they are installed correctly and don't interfere with any other moving parts. there is no problem with the part themselves but if some joe blow puts them in himself incorrectly then a cert will pick that up and require it to be installed correctly. ppl also sometimes forget to bolt absolutely everything back up or have extra bits left over. better to get a cert and find you missed something that could potentially have led to a crash than to go "bugger it, it will be sweet" and then have some bolts shear off or your suspension fall out cause it wasn't installed properly and then crash (possibly leading to afore mentioned hospital or funeral home of your choice). Cause i guarantee if you crashed because it wasnt installed properly you are gonna wish that you got it cert'd and found the problem before it craps out.

[Alex B]

Thats no diffrent to putting in your own springs, shocks, brake pads etc at the end of the day. Where is the cert for that stuff?

[CozmoNz]

Is TRD Toyota then?

is Nismo Nissan? Is Mugan Honda?

just wondering

[Alex B]

Just so i look like a complete dick, it turns out they were KEI Office not trd

Still this is a good thred for anyone with such issues with their WOF.

Peoples opinion/experance with kei??

[Mr Revhead]

never heard of them

[Dell'Orto]

I dont know that they're that good, "supposedly" made by Keiichi Tsuchiya's company. Probably asking on the D1 forum would get some good info about them.

[Dragger_Dan]

Just so i look like a complete dick, it turns out they were KEI Office not trd

Still this is a good thred for anyone with such issues with their WOF.

Peoples opinion/experance with kei??

I've head they call their line 'office' for a reason... the shocks themselves are actually gas struts out of office chairs