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Website · by Al » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:21 pm

RS13 wrote:And be super, super careful in the wet.. they spin veeeery easily!

Only when you skimp on tyres and give it a bootful mid corner.

Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's FTW. Tamed my old car in the wet.

by **CozmoNz** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:33 pm

Try federals and a supercharger, and a right foot like mine....

:twisted:

by **Adamal** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:39 pm

MR2SIK wrote:my old aw11 span out waaaaaaaaaay more than my sw20 ever did

Really? I've found that my AW is really controllable if the rear goes out in the wet. More than my SW.
Like if I were to pull out of a driveway/intersection in the wet, turning 90 degrees, and gave it a bit too much gas, the AW tends to push out smoothly, whereas the SW tends to snap out.

That said, the Dunlops on my AW are FAR superior to the GT Radials on my SW. Oh how young and nieve I was when I bought those damn GT Radials...

by **Mr Revhead** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:58 pm

911 has been MR for a few years now.

959 is definitly a supercar.

sw20 = GHEY

aww11 for life :twisted:

if you have half a clue about driving they are not as "spinny" as ppl say.

if you have issues spinning, then either you have a major problem, or you need to learn how to drive.

and yes tyres make a huge differene, as they do to any car

by **Lloyd** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:25 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:911 has been MR for a few years now.

Since when and according to who?

by **Mr Revhead** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:36 pm

since they went to the water cooled engine. engine is now far enough forward that the majority of it is infront of the wheel centre line.

also the cayman uses the same drive train layout :wink:

by **Jazza** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:55 pm

Agreed with the mr2. Ive driven a few mr2's (prolly about 24 hours in them in total?) And never had one spin. If your relatively safe and dont accelerate into corners youll be sweet. I guarantee more people write off their skylines in the wet than mr2s

by **eritate** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:33 am

Jazza wrote:Agreed with the mr2. Ive driven a few mr2's (prolly about 24 hours in them in total?) And never had one spin. If your relatively safe and dont accelerate into corners youll be sweet. I guarantee more people write off their skylines in the wet than mr2s

yes but there are more skylines driven hard than mr2s

by **flygt4** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:07 am

eritate wrote:
Jazza wrote:Agreed with the mr2. Ive driven a few mr2's (prolly about 24 hours in them in total?) And never had one spin. If your relatively safe and dont accelerate into corners youll be sweet. I guarantee more people write off their skylines in the wet than mr2s

yes but there are more skylines driven hard than mr2s

probly because hairdressers arent really known for driving cars hard :lol:

by **Lloyd** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:34 am

Mr Revhead wrote:since they went to the water cooled engine. engine is now far enough forward that the majority of it is infront of the wheel centre line.

How exactly? The engine itself has to be behind the gearbox which has to be in line with the driving axles doesn't it? Maybe I'm too tired and missing something completely obvious. For the engine to be in front of the drive axles it would seem that the gearbox would have to go under the engine which kinda of defeats the point of using the flat 6 for the lower centre of gravity.

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:36 am

ok i take it back!

just found a pic i took of a GT3 and the engine is still behind the axle line.
:oops:

but it isnt as much as it used to be!

by **Lloyd** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:32 pm

Haha, good to know. Couldn't really see how it could be mid engined. That pic above is from a 996 GT2

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:35 pm

you mean a gt3. gt2 has turbos :wink:

the cayman is definitly mid engine though.

by **Lloyd** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:37 pm

Sorry, yes I did mean GT3

Would love one of those.

Anyways... sexiest rear end:
http://www.monstercable.com/caraudio1/s ... 24x768.jpg

EDIT- This is the sort of pic I was looking for before. Pretty much the engine must be rear mounted for this setup to work. Its like trying to call a Subaru mid engined

http://plexxi.c-sam.nu/911gt2/bilder/DS ... 0kopia.jpg
http://porsche.carclub.ru/img/models/gt2/kpp.jpg

by **RomanV** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:00 pm

MR2SIK wrote:Not dangerous cars, just have a strong personality

I dont think the SW20 has much personality at all.

Compared to the likes of a KP... now THAT has personality.

MR2 is just grip grip grip, boring boring boring.

In something like a KP, you feel like a race car driver when you're going 45 kph. :lol:

by **eritate** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:52 pm

yet you own a mr2 roman ?

Website · by **Mr.Phreak** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:17 pm

His has personality.....and it hates him :lol:

by **RomanV** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:47 pm

eritate wrote:yet you own a mr2 roman ?

If you want to drive fast, then an MR2 is awesome.

For me personally it's great for hauling ass out to the beach and back, which is the whole reason I got one basically.

I think it has higher grip levels than most cars, which makes it less fun.

Other cars with lower grip levels, have more of a 'buffer' beyond their grip level.

So more tire squeeling, more understeer, more oversteer, more everything that makes a car fun to drive when you're giving it a bit of stick IMO, even if it's slower.

Rather than having heaps of understeer, oversteer, wheel spin, etc
an MR2 just has a butt load of grip, up until the point where you've got to be going license losingly fast to get it to do any of that.

I was driving a 1300cc mirage last night that was more fun than my SW20, simply because it was scary trying to keep it on the road at 70kph, haha.

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