c series gearbox fun!

[slighty_sykotic]

Hey,

Just picked up a c series 4age gearbox from a mr2.

Now, i assumed it would be a c52 with the starter motor hump on both sides, but alas its not .

But never fear!

Its lsd...

So if it is in fact a c50, why is it lsd... I didnt think they came out lsd? Meaning its aftermarket correct?


But anyway, i need to change the bellhousing over. So can anyone point me in the right direction in terms of tools? Am I going to need any special tools? Im pretty sure I can find a exploded diagram, and im not stupid, so shouldnt be too hard (this is me assuming that i have to get the bellhousing off by working from the ass end backwards?)

Or, is there another way to do it?

And my final question, i have a auto ae101 tureno with a 20v that im about to pull out, can I use the bellhousing on the auto box?(guesing probably not).

Thanks,
--Sykotic

[Zak]

Dunno about the automatic bell housing, but you'll need a socket set, pully puller, screw drivers, allen key set, a small dead blow hammer and maybe some circlip pliers if you can't get them off with the screw drivers.

It's about a 10min job if the box is out of the car.

Just make sure you put every thing back the way it was, especialy the balls and springs.

[thegreatestben]

Sorry, I should've have thought about it having the starter on the wrong side when you said what its for

[slighty_sykotic]

Thats ok, i was just gona txt you and tell you. Not your fault

But do you know its history? like is it a c52 or a c50? And what lsd is in it?

--Sykotic

[slighty_sykotic]

Dunno about the automatic bell housing, but you'll need a socket set, pully puller, screw drivers, allen key set, a small dead blow hammer and maybe some circlip pliers if you can't get them off with the screw drivers.

It's about a 10min job if the box is out of the car.

Just make sure you put every thing back the way it was, especialy the balls and springs.

So you do have to go form the back forward?

[Zak]

i just thought about it, and it's about an hour's work, maybe 2 if it's your first time. you will want the manual to do it as you have to strip the whole box down, and transfer all of it to another bell/diff housing. it's a big job, by no means hard, but you have to be carefull to put the selector shafts in the right way or you will loose 5th gear and have to pull it all down to fix.

sorry i got it wrong in the first post, got a little muddled up there

[thegreatestben]

There was no receipt in the big book. Car was well looked after until it rolled down a hill into a tree. the boot and taillight was buggered so it became a shit box essentially. Box is in better nick than the E in my car. Its a c52.

[slighty_sykotic]

There was no receipt in the big book. Car was well looked after until it rolled down a hill into a tree. the boot and taillight was buggered so it became a sh*t box essentially. Box is in better nick than the E in my car. Its a c52.

I thought all of the c52s had a dual starter hump?


And do I need to use a hole casing? Or just the front bell housing part?

[AceSniper]

the proper way is to pull the whole thing down, but you can rangi it and just pull off the bellhousing end, aslong as you have a 10mm ratchet spaner for the revrse gear bracket and rember to remove the spring/ball from the husing.

[slighty_sykotic]

the proper way is to pull the whole thing down, but you can rangi it and just pull off the bellhousing end, aslong as you have a 10mm ratchet spaner for the revrse gear bracket and rember to remove the spring/ball from the husing.

Can you go into abit more detail?

[Zak]

if you try to half ass it you'll miss some thing out. i'd just do it properly so you know it's all ok. i don't think it's worth the small amount of time you might be saving, it would probably just take longer in the end.

[*84vvt*]

Have a look


http://www.ae92gts.com/ae92gts_trans_rb_1.html

[Zak]

after looking at that site, it would probably be easiest to move your starter motor over to the intake side than to mess around with the box. you just need the backing plate and a few other bits and peices.

[AceSniper]

its not a hard swap but then you think of stuff like... diff pre load shims... an so-on if its possable do as been said move starter

[thaphatty]

I bloody doubt that the auto bell will swap over!! innards of a manual trans are EPICALLY different to auto and i didnt think the bellhousing just removed on e's/c's, its cast into the entire housing innit?

SST's are required to set diff preload, need to have all the internals out to set it, its alot of $&#$% about, and if you want to half arse swap over the bells you will make a hash of it

[slighty_sykotic]

after looking at that site, it would probably be easiest to move your starter motor over to the intake side than to mess around with the box. you just need the backing plate and a few other bits and peices.

Its not that easy... Cause my starter only has one hump...


And are all those SST's REALLY needed? (from someone that has accutly done it).

[AceSniper]

you can pull the whole thing down as its been said with pliers sockets pullers (depending on year pully pullers aswell) alen keys, but thats not the hard part its making sure the diff pre load is right as I doubt there all the same.

[Zak]

you should be fine as long and you don't pull apart the gear sets, but really, it would be best the double check it all.

[85AW20v]

My AW has a C52 from factory according to the build plate and definitely not LSD. This maybe a silly question but why do you need to change the starter to the intake side? Mine works fine with the starter on the exhaust. Or are you looking for room to fit a turbo in there?

[slighty_sykotic]

Yup, room for a huge t3/t4 turbo