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Mmm, Boost wrote:
Silent Knight wrote:Ring Repco and ask for a quote on a replacement K&N filter for your car. Will be around 100-120$ new.


Panel filters are around $140 RRP. I wouldnt use an HKS filter if you paid me to.


those HKS mushroom filters are bad apparently.. When they get old they detoriate(spelling) and little filter shit goes right through your intake

= bad new


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Yes a 1990 GT4.... thanks for that.... shall go and get one this week.... how hard is it to take out all the aircon


Wow, an ST185 with less than 100k...thats quite a rarity you've got there. Ok a good upgrade for those guys is to replace the stock downpipe/cat with a good aftermarket downpipe, such as the Aussie one.
If you can find a CT20B from the later model GT Four, thats a fantastic upgrade, bolts right up and will give you an easy 40kw gain at the flywheel. They tend to go for $600-700 2nd hand.
Something else you may want to consider is getting the water to air intercooler from the RC version of your car, it wont be as blingy as a big front mount, but wont be as laggy either and will do a great job of keeping the intake temps down.
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HKS filters are bad without being old.
Brand new ones have shitty filtration to start with.

I recall a test being done ages ago with findings being posted online on one of the MKIV Supra sites but I can't find the link at the moment.

IIRC Apexi came out on top with best filtration qualities and K&N walked in with 2nd place.
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I removed the air-con off my engine when it was out of the car...

I found this on google but its for a st165

It should be fairly similar

http://www.gtfours.co.uk/default.htm?ht ... aircon.htm


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Mmm, Boost wrote:
Tania wrote:
Yes a 1990 GT4.... thanks for that.... shall go and get one this week.... how hard is it to take out all the aircon


Wow, an ST185 with less than 100k...thats quite a rarity you've got there. Ok a good upgrade for those guys is to replace the stock downpipe/cat with a good aftermarket downpipe, such as the Aussie one.
If you can find a CT20B from the later model GT Four, thats a fantastic upgrade, bolts right up and will give you an easy 40kw gain at the flywheel. They tend to go for $600-700 2nd hand.
Something else you may want to consider is getting the water to air intercooler from the RC version of your car, it wont be as blingy as a big front mount, but wont be as laggy either and will do a great job of keeping the intake temps down.


hehe yes i thought she was quite a find! and how much will a water to air intercooler cost me? is the labour hard to do that? i dont care too much about 'bling' but rather going faster!
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Labour to replace the WA IC would be nothing if you do it yourself.

AFAIK they look exactly the same and they are plumbed up exactly the same. So you just remove the old one and put the new one on exactly the way you removed the old one. :wink:
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I'm not too sure what the W2A intercoolers go for, they tend to pop up now and then...the labour would be the trickiest bit, but if you're mechanically minded or have a few friends that are it shouldnt be a problem.
Oh yes, the CT20B is the turbo from the later model Celica...should have been clearer on that. Its probably the best bang for buck upgrade you could do.
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Mmm, Boost wrote:I'm not too sure what the W2A intercoolers go for, they tend to pop up now and then...the labour would be the trickiest bit, but if you're mechanically minded or have a few friends that are it shouldnt be a problem.
Oh yes, the CT20B is the turbo from the later model Celica...should have been clearer on that. Its probably the best bang for buck upgrade you could do.



yeah w2a st205 intercoolers can go from 200+++

Are you thinkng a ct20b ceramic or steel brad?

Either one is a better upgrade than the ct26


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Either or, whichever comes up first really.
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Ahk

Tania I believe that MR2SIK (found on mr2 forums) could well be selling his ct20b ceramic soon.

Brand new ct20b steel shafts cost 2grand and im unsure if you can get ceramic ones brand new


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Why would you even consider buying a ceramic if you can get the steel shaft option for that cheap already?
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pod, ct20b, w2a, downpipe. sweet
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Tania wrote:1. DECENT pos filter
2. aftermarket downpipr
3. water to air intercooler
4................?
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At the end of all this expenditure you're still going to need a decent boost controller and boost gauge.

Even without winding the boost up over stock the controller will give you better spool/response and is easily one of the best mods you can do for instant results.

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hmmm well i shall look for all of the above..... thanks so much guys.... you are all so helpful! I really appreciate it!
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Nah, the wastegates on CT20B's hold at 12psi, which is plenty to start with. Definately would require a boost gauge though!.

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eritate wrote:
Mmm, Boost wrote:I'm not too sure what the W2A intercoolers go for, they tend to pop up now and then...the labour would be the trickiest bit, but if you're mechanically minded or have a few friends that are it shouldnt be a problem.
Oh yes, the CT20B is the turbo from the later model Celica...should have been clearer on that. Its probably the best bang for buck upgrade you could do.



yeah w2a st205 intercoolers can go from 200+++

Are you thinkng a ct20b ceramic or steel brad?

Either one is a better upgrade than the ct26


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If you actually find a ST205 w2a, trust me it will go for ALOT more than $200. ST185 RC coolers are still easily fetching over $600.

All ive done is upped the boost in mine, im running 15-16psi :lol:. Goes better, but im expecting the ceramic to shatter. Being a prefacelift you'll have a fuelcut at 12.5ish psi. Do what Toby said and get a tap and set it at 12psi.

Could always look at getting rid of the sound deadening? Depends how far you wanna go with the car.
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Also, so far as I am aware the 205 W to A needs to be modified to fit the ST-185 3SGTE as the front pipe comes off at a different angle.

1. CT20B
2. Downpipe
3. W to A
4. Exhaust
5. boost controller of some sort.
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Tania wrote:
eritate wrote:Having a Pod filter will increase peformance and increase air flow which increases fuel usage......................................................

Its a gt4 right.....

Get rid of your air-con, turn up the boost to 10 - 12psi, get some good tyres and brake pads also get a nice setup suspension wise...

Just because their skyline can be faster than you in a straight line means sh*t.

Go take them for a drive through some windy road and see if they can keep up with you :

EDIT: Oh any by the way go buy a $80 K&N pod filter not a $30 repco sh*t one... the difference is quite a lot

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Yes a 1990 GT4.... thanks for that.... shall go and get one this week.... how hard is it to take out all the aircon

And yes winding down the window creates about 15% more drag.... and dont even think about sticking your arm out the window.... the drag that will cause is huge!
I think i will remove the air con as I can never have it on for more than a minute at a time because I get so cold.... and it currently isnt running at the mo anyway.... doesnt have enough charge or something and I can be bothered spending money on fixing aircon


Its raining. Its hot. Your windows are fogging up like a mother. Your fast gt4 race car (on the road) now has no air con, and you pull over for 15 mins to demist your windscreen. Now what? I must admit if im driving and i turn my air con on and off, i can hear the pitch of my exhaust change, but i couldnt tell you the difference if i drove around for a week with it on or off.
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get a simota pod from driven performance, al sponsers TS and you get great deals, those pods are awesome
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Silent Knight wrote:HKS filters are bad without being old.
Brand new ones have shitty filtration to start with.

I recall a test being done ages ago with findings being posted online on one of the MKIV Supra sites but I can't find the link at the moment.

IIRC Apexi came out on top with best filtration qualities and K&N walked in with 2nd place.


http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
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