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Postby andyae85 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:53 pm

and yea ill post some pics soon :)
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Postby Rick » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:18 pm

andyae85 wrote:yea everything was done right, and it goes great :) but yea

as for the computa :? im really not happy with that, they put it there so they didnt have to extend the wires :? looks ghey there as well :?


So why did they charge you for extending the wiring loom then???
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Postby l1ttle_d3vil » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:28 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:quite a lot of "make up...." and "modify to fit" in there....


yep, and when doing an engine conversion like this there is alot of stuff you have to make up and modify to suit, and the fabrication of all this stuff can take alot of time. there's lots of fiddly stuff which isnt hard, just time consuming and at the end of the day they have to charge for their labour.
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Postby snwtoy » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:37 pm

Rick wrote:
andyae85 wrote:yea everything was done right, and it goes great :) but yea

as for the computa :? im really not happy with that, they put it there so they didnt have to extend the wires :? looks ghey there as well :?


So why did they charge you for extending the wiring loom then???


That's what I was wondering. Thought you may have requested it sit there.
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Postby Zak » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:43 pm

I've just done the loom on a mate's ae85 and I didn't have to extend the wires to get the computer inside the car. It's on the passanger side, but it's inside and thats all that matters.

So far it's hasn't been too bad to put the motor and every thing in, definitly not $3k worth. But then I don't own a garage :?
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:14 pm

Seems like a pretty reasonable price. Those annoying little things that dont sound like much can take up a fair bit of time. Putting the computer there may have been to save you money in the end
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Postby matt dunn » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:05 pm

Zak wrote:I've just done the loom on a mate's ae85 and I didn't have to extend the wires to get the computer inside the car. It's on the passanger side, but it's inside and thats all that matters.

So far it's hasn't been too bad to put the motor and every thing in, definitly not $3k worth. But then I don't own a garage :?



Have done a few looms in AE85/86's.

If you use an AE86 loom, they fit right in nor worries and you dont have to lengthen them.
If you use a FWD loom they are a PITA as they are a bit short and to get the ecu inside the car you need to chop it in 1/2 and add about 1/2 metre or so.

And as this was a MR2 donor car, they have even shorter loom agian,
so the may have even had to lengthen it to get it to sit on the inner guard.?
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Postby Bling » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:27 pm

If you want it moved, buy some wire the same thickness and go nuts with a soldering iron :wink: 8)
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Postby Zak » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:40 am

matt dunn wrote:Have done a few looms in AE85/86's.

If you use an AE86 loom, they fit right in nor worries and you dont have to lengthen them.
If you use a FWD loom they are a PITA as they are a bit short and to get the ecu inside the car you need to chop it in 1/2 and add about 1/2 metre or so.

And as this was a MR2 donor car, they have even shorter loom agian,
so the may have even had to lengthen it to get it to sit on the inner guard.?


Fair enough, I used a loom out of an ae82, I did have to unbundle it all but other than that it was long enough aside from maybe 3 wires.
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:34 am

I've only skimmed most of this thread...
That was a lot of money.... But I feel your pain...
I had a swap done on my AE85. Old tired dying 4AGE for freshly recond 4AGE. A lot of little niggly bits turned up during the job and the final cost of that was about $1500... Plus another $500 for stupid WOF stuff (stupid breaking car)...
And that was just removing one 4AGE and putting in another...
(The initial swap 3a to 4a I got really cheap $2400 including retro fitting a/c to new standards, but it shows in some areas, and that 4AGE turned out to be sick.)

I really wanted to do it myself, but I just don't quite have all the gear to make it easy... It probably would've taken me twice as long as it took my mechanic.
At least he always does a really good job, and because he always works on my car I suspect he didn't have some of the problems another mechanic might have had...

Paying someone else is always pants. But it has to be done sometimes...

Hope you're loving the 4AGE. I know I did. It's also nice to see I'm not the only sucker who needs to pay other people sometimes...
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Postby Leon » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:53 am

andyae85 wrote:yea everything was done right, and it goes great :) but yea


From a very quick look at the bill ... I can see that while it is a hefty chunk of change, it does look like they did do a lot of stuff to the car. As somebody else has commented, they've done a reasonable amount of fabrication and modification stuff, not just "bolted A to B". That's gotta rack up the hours.
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Postby bluemaumau » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:57 pm

matt dunn wrote:
Zak wrote:I've just done the loom on a mate's ae85 and I didn't have to extend the wires to get the computer inside the car. It's on the passanger side, but it's inside and thats all that matters.

So far it's hasn't been too bad to put the motor and every thing in, definitly not $3k worth. But then I don't own a garage :?



Have done a few looms in AE85/86's.

If you use an AE86 loom, they fit right in nor worries and you dont have to lengthen them.
If you use a FWD loom they are a PITA as they are a bit short and to get the ecu inside the car you need to chop it in 1/2 and add about 1/2 metre or so.

And as this was a MR2 donor car, they have even shorter loom agian,
so the may have even had to lengthen it to get it to sit on the inner guard.?

if they were lenghtening it why didnt they just make it a little longer and stick it inside, munters :roll: :lol:
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Postby RED TOP MR 2 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:57 pm

did you have an account because if you did you get a month to pay.but with the payment thing and the holding of your car at the end of the day youve got to pay it anyway regardless.
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Postby andyae85 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:49 pm

yea well because i told them to save on costs, they thought it would save time and money to just mount it there :roll: oh well it dosent look toooo bad i spose

and yea it did take a lot of time consuming fabrication, so i can see how the bill gets up, but lesson learnt

they did do a great job though, and i cant beleive the difference from the 4age to the 3a :D its awesome, dont no how long my diff and k50 gonna last, the box is already making some weird noises, problem is i dont have enough money to upgrade just yet :oops: haha so ill have
to take it easy for a while lol

and ill post some pics of it as soon as i get my hands on a camera, cheers for all the help so far guys
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Postby crispy'86 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:10 pm

Bugger you didn't hold out and wait, i know of a couple of people who would've done it for alot cheaper than that and they know what they're doing :cry: :wink:
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Postby andyae85 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:25 pm

haha yea true, but after 3 months of stuffing round and trying to save money and be cheap wherever i could........... :roll: i just wanted it done so i got impatient and yea........... big mistake, o well thats life :D
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:24 am

Well at least you've got a good learn and get on with it attitude. I'm still kicking myself for the time I didnt have time to do an oil change and I needed to do a 6000km trip in a few days, I got the local garage to do it and was pretty annoyed paying for that :lol:
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:38 am

andyae85 wrote:they did do a great job though, and i cant beleive the difference from the 4age to the 3a :D its awesome, dont no how long my diff and k50 gonna last, the box is already making some weird noises, problem is i dont have enough money to upgrade just yet :oops: haha so ill have
to take it easy for a while lol
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Postby matt4u » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:07 pm

Just a quick glance and noticed the price of some things are inflated, e.g, cable ties $0.50 each, came to $10 worth, they aint worth that, I can get 1000 of them for $50

I would have thought you could have used the quote you did get which was for more work as a benchmark, I though you cant go more than 10% over a quote?
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Postby GTCRSHR » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:02 pm

was it a quote

or a estimate ?

i think $3300 is a pretty good price to be honest,
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