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Postby ILikeNissanMore » Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:38 pm

Hello guys, Im a 21 y/o uni student, living in chch. I own an Ae101 Silvertop trueno (gone from a Gts-t skyline to this , its a sad day :( )and was just curious as to wheather anyone had experience with the heat shields sold at repco . My pod filter is totally exposed to the engine heat, so i must be losing a considerable amount of power.

From what I gather they are made of stainless steel, im not to sure of the heat capacities of steel but wouldn't this cause more heat build up than prevent it? Anyone know of a good material (not to expensive) as a substitute? Im also considering making a cold air feed getting as much ambient air as poss...How should I go about this as I am no mechainc, please explain in lamens terms.

One last Q :) Where would you recommend purchasing a 2.25 exhaust
system including fitting? Pit stop quoted me $500 for a single 2.25 system, can I better that or is that as cheap as it comes?
What power gains are expected (i'd like to think at least between 5-10kw)

Im stopping there in performance mods as this engine is NOT worth my hard earned $$$, wait till i finish my degree next year and buy a Gts25t :D

(although i would have to say for a little NA 1.6 engine it has a bit of get up and go!)


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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:37 pm

dont feel sad
you made the right choice!!

all those questions are well coverd here, so have a search

but to give you an idea:

throw away pod and fit airbox with K&N panel.
run it on 98. or 95 but back the timing off 2 deg (search to find correct procedure)
stock exhuast is 2.25" and is very good. only real improvement to be had is in the 2-1 section that goes over the subframe.

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Postby ILikeNissanMore » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:03 pm

Ah , thanks dude. So there's no point in changing the exhaust sys at all? The guys at Pit Stop will do anything for a sale....$&#$%.

The 2-1? What does this invlove? How much?

So the 20v silvertop is already about as performance orientated as you going to get it without spending mega bucks?

K and N panel is better than pod you rekon? I gathered only for low and midrange.

Basically im losing power at about 5500. After that the delivery is very flat and boring, i hate my car, please send me something with some balls god :( :(
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:08 pm

as i said, have a search, its all covered :wink:

as with most n/a engines you need to spend $$ to make gains.
and with the 20v its very good to start off with. making any gains harder and more costly to find.
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Postby ILikeNissanMore » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:46 pm

Sorry mate, i cant find what im wanting to find anywhere! Is the Ae101 trueno already twin 2.25 exhaust? How much does the 2 - 1 crossmember thing cost?
I dont know where to start with this, turbo was so much easier..
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Postby Bling » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:39 pm

save ya $$$$ for when ya buy a Gts25t. As you say its not worth throwing your money at it :) just drive it as is exhaust wise, and try get a hold of factory air intake and do K&N filter as Revhead said.
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Postby solitaire » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:22 pm

You gotta look at it with some perspective, You have an awesome car there... sure its not as fast as your (quote Akane) Nissan Scumline 2.5litre turbo but what do you expect?

I have ae92 Levin which will be slower than your 101 but its still a tremendous car to drive... laps up heaps of abuse and keeps putting out as long as you keep it serviced...

I also have an MR2 Turbo... another awesome car from a completely different discipline... mid engine, rear wheel drive - which requires a completely different style of driving.

Are you bashing your ae101 just because its slower than your 2.5 litre turbo? or is there something legitimately wrong with it? Because if so sell you 101 and pick up a SW20 or an AW11 for around $4k ... i gurantee youll have more fun in it than your 2.5litre boat and itll be faster to boot.

Sorry for the rant but i wont have anyone bashing levins....
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Postby Adydas » Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:27 pm

Man levins suck :P just joshing.
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Postby solitaire » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:40 pm

Adydas wrote:Man levins suck :P just joshing.


RIGHT! Where's me pointy stick.....
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Postby RS13 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:57 pm

Solitaire wrote:Are you bashing your ae101 just because its slower than your 2.5 litre turbo? or is there something legitimately wrong with it? Because if so sell you 101 and pick up a SW20 or an AW11 for around $4k ... i gurantee youll have more fun in it than your 2.5litre boat and itll be faster to boot.


So.. a bluetop AW11 is more fun than a 2.5L rwd turbo R33? Or by "fun", do you mean fixing rust, and replacing bottom end bearings? I may be a little biased too, being a Nissan man, but I couldn't see myself choosing an AW11 or even a turbo SW20 over an R33 turbo coupe!

Besides, this AE101 is only his "gap filler", that he wants more poke from.. I could never consider an AE101 a "performance" car.
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:35 pm

RS13 wrote: I could never consider an AE101 a "performance" car.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby solitaire » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:38 pm

RS13 wrote:So.. a bluetop AW11 is more fun than a 2.5L rwd turbo R33? Or by "fun", do you mean fixing rust, and replacing bottom end bearings? I may be a little biased too, being a Nissan man, but I couldn't see myself choosing an AW11 or even a turbo SW20 over an R33 turbo coupe!


Have you ever driven a Aw11 4agze? they are an assload of fun... and my sw20.... while slightly more "voluptuos" :? than an aw11 is still a lot of fun.

By "fun" i mean spirited back road drives... rather than pulling up at the lights next to a load of wiggas in some chrome abomination and attempting to attract females by making revving noises :lol:

Yeah the Skyline has more power, if you enjoy racing kiddies at the lights then go for the skyline.... if you want fun on the track days go for mister two! :D

I'm biased as well obviously but you cant argue with mid engine vs front engine...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:20 pm

i could never consider any skyline a performance car.
a tank yes, a boat yes. performance car? no. and yes i include the gtr in that.

bang for buck ae101 levin > skyline
see above definition of fun as to why.....

but thats all off topic.....

on topic:

there are plenty of threads here about the 101s, and iv given you the answers you your questions. nect step is yours :D
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Postby dotdog » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:03 pm

Best mod you could ever do to any 20V is sell it and buy something that is even close to the factory quoted output. Best thing i ever did with my BZR after all the probs I had with it was trade it in on a subbie
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Postby RS13 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:33 pm

flygt4 wrote:
RS13 wrote: I could never consider an AE101 a "performance" car.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Its' still a friggin' Corolla! The only advantage they have over my grandads' Corolla, is 4 extra valves.. :roll:

Solitaire wrote:Yeah the Skyline has more power, if you enjoy racing kiddies at the lights then go for the skyline.... if you want fun on the track days go for mister two!

I'm biased as well obviously but you cant argue with mid engine vs front engine...



Racing kiddies at the lights? You just lost all respect I could have had for you, with that one sentence.

Mr Revhead wrote:i could never consider any skyline a performance car.
a tank yes, a boat yes. performance car? no. and yes i include the gtr in that.


Apples for apples mate. Although, a GTR not a performance car? And you'd consider a MR2 a performance car? If we were to get say, 1000 car enthusiasts, who all knew what an MR2 and GTR were, and asked them which they would consider to be more of a "performance car".. which way do you think that would go?

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Postby ILikeNissanMore » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:51 pm

Agreed. The GTR is God hence the name "Goddy". It eats 90% of cars on the road, therefore it surely deserves a place in performance car..

Now, I can't find what i have been searching for, and no-one seems to want to help me! (even the guys at skylinesdownunder helped me more than this! :|)

IS 2.25 the stock size of the ae101 exhaust sys? therefore no sense modding?
Is the 2-1 crossmember you were talking about an expensive mod? how much are we talking?
I really cant be arsed putting in a new panel filter and airbox as i will have to buy an airbox (the last owner did the poddy, and threw it out)
SO will heat shield and air intake be an ok option?

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Postby RS13 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:52 pm

ILikeNissanMore wrote:Agreed. The GTR is God hence the name "Goddy". It eats 90% of cars on the road, therefore it surely deserves a place in performance car..

Now, I can't find what i have been searching for, and no-one seems to want to help me! (even the guys at skylinesdownunder helped me more than this! :|)

IS 2.25 the stock size of the ae101 exhaust sys? therefore no sense modding?
Is the 2-1 crossmember you were talking about an expensive mod? how much are we talking?
I really cant be arsed putting in a new panel filter and airbox as i will have to buy an airbox (the last owner did the poddy, and threw it out)
SO will heat shield and air intake be an ok option?

Thanks guys.


Actually, "Goddy" refers to "Godzilla", which is the name that Wheels magazine coined for the car when they test drove it new back in the early 90's, and it stuck. (Well, as far as I know, thats' the best explanation!)

I wouldn't say 90% of the cars on the road.. but they're certainly up there as far as Jap "supercars" go!

Dude.. I wouldn't bother modding the AE101, if you're just going to end up getting another 'Liner.. You'll never make it as fast or as fun, so just drive it.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:50 pm

i dont care what 1000 "enthusiasts" say
iv said it before, and ill say it again 99% of ppl into cares talk crap and have no idea. and im so sick and tired of ppl thinking skylines are the best car ever :lol:


yes 2.25" is the stock size.
the 2-1 section (if youd bothered to look under your car) is exactly what is says it is.... you will need to get one custom made.

and seriously, go to a wrecker and get an airbox.
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Postby Bling » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:53 pm

RS13 wrote:
flygt4 wrote:
RS13 wrote: I could never consider an AE101 a "performance" car.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Its' still a friggin' Corolla! The only advantage they have over my grandads' Corolla, is 4 extra valves.. :roll:


i'm guessing you've seen his power output and can see his point of view for quoting you :lol:
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Postby Chickenman » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:43 am

Sorry but after careful consideration.

R33 = fat and ugly

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