3sgte info

[MR2SIK]

I'm looking at getting a new shortblock from Mr Revhead,
From the sounds of it all the different Generations of 3s are available, so I was thinking, would the later generation ones be more likely to withstand and make more power than one designed from 1990? Or would I be best to just get one identical to what I have?
So basicly what I'm asking I suppose, is which Generation 3sgte bottom end is considered to be the best all round and are the different Gen ones able to have the head and other bits bolt to it

And before anyone suggests, I cant afford a rebuild with forged internals at this stage, I've already looked into it.

[groupagt4]

gen3 bottom end is the strongest.i think you can swith the heads over but dont know if it will just bolt straight on iirc.dnt take my word for it though

[SUBARUCONVERT]

isnt a new short blocks about 3k?

forged pistons approx 1k
eagle rods approx 700
new bearings 100-200
leaves u with a grand for the mechine work

u have a forged bottom end for the same price, altho i see the attraction of a all new bottom end

[Dell'Orto]

You've left out assembly costs...labour would still be close to if not more than $2k.

[tex]

Gen3 3sgte short block is basically the same as the gen3 3sge short block. I know definatly that the gen2 NA head will fit on a gen3 NZ complete bottom end.

[Adydas]

forged pistons approx 1k
eagle rods approx 700
new bearings 100-200

Where are you making these figures up from?

i could find a recipt for the $1200 i paid for JE pistons, eagle rods And bearings.

[Prymal]

Also , how " powerful " are you intending to make your engine ?

[FST4RD]

Go forged Sean.....
The sort of power and mods you got, you don't want another factory block and then 5 minutes down the track running some massive boost to poke a leg out of bed or something silly like that.
(unless there's like a 3 year unlimited k unlimited modification warrenty )

[Al]

He has to pay monkey mechanics in Nelson to put it together. These guys take longer to change turbos than my father and I.

The brand new short block makes financial sense. Brand new shortblock, his Link, new intercooler, some 264 cams and his ct20b @ 1 bar he will be laying down 200rwkw. They are hardly earth shattering modifications.

Gen3 bottom end will be 8.5:1. Gen2 bottom end is 8.8:1. Check out http://www.mr2oc.com if there are any differences in the bottom end.

[FST4RD]

Forging is just future proofing thats all if he's keen to get bigger turbo, more power etc....

[Dell'Orto]

forged pistons approx 1k
eagle rods approx 700
new bearings 100-200

Where are you making these figures up from?

i could find a recipt for the $1200 i paid for JE pistons, eagle rods And bearings.

Thats a damn good price for those bits - who'd you get it from?

[Adydas]

i got it from some company in america i used to have the website address but now i forget them, its prolly somewhere if i really had to dig it up. But hell yeah i had to jump at it..

At the time i think it was $883 US, aka $1283 Kiwi

[JustinSpiderholden]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 620639.htm

done problem solved

[SUBARUCONVERT]

You've left out assembly costs...labour would still be close to if not more than $2k.

Who are u using to put ur bottom ends togeather? because ur getting well ripped off. If u supply a stock short block, then supply pistons, rings, rods, bearings, o rings, gaskets. I cant see 2k in stripping the block, cleaning, small amount of boring and honing, surface the deck then assemble.

And Adydas i was using avgerage cost from places in NZ.

[Dell'Orto]

You've left out assembly costs...labour would still be close to if not more than $2k.

Who are u using to put ur bottom ends togeather? because ur getting well ripped off. If u supply a stock short block, then supply pistons, rings, rods, bearings, o rings, gaskets. I cant see 2k in stripping the block, cleaning, small amount of boring and honing, surface the deck then assemble.

And Adydas i was using avgerage cost from places in NZ.

Perhaps you should ring around a few places. I'm not saying you cant get it done for less, or that $2k is an average price, but skilled labour isnt cheap.

[sergei]

from my experience don't save money on machinig because if a "monkey" does it, you will be better off without any rebuilts...

[vvega]

from my experience don't save money on machinig because if a "monkey" does it, you will be better off without any rebuilts...

ftw

[blitza]

www.dyno-flo.com

[SUBARUCONVERT]

You've left out assembly costs...labour would still be close to if not more than $2k.

Who are u using to put ur bottom ends togeather? because ur getting well ripped off. If u supply a stock short block, then supply pistons, rings, rods, bearings, o rings, gaskets. I cant see 2k in stripping the block, cleaning, small amount of boring and honing, surface the deck then assemble.

And Adydas i was using avgerage cost from places in NZ.

Perhaps you should ring around a few places. I'm not saying you cant get it done for less, or that $2k is an average price, but skilled labour isnt cheap.

I agree that u shouldnt just look for the cheapest, as like anything else. I guess 2k sounds exess to me because i get a discount at the engine builders we use at work. maybe if u rolled up off the street. I also agree with sergeis comments

[strx7]

$2K worth of labour seems excessive considering i got my 2JZ rebuilt by the local auto machinist for $1600 including parts