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Postby flygt4 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:55 pm

pretty sure aw11 s/c with 4agze used e series stuff. my diff defnately came from an aw11 and fits an e series box and shafts.

im not really too concerned, it doesnt look like the linkages have been changed, and it probly is an ae92 box but as im not familiar with the differences between the 2 i cant garantee it is an ae92 box :lol: . i just keep finding interesting things while pulling it to bits.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:29 pm

sergei wrote:I thought that AW only came with C series gearboxes. C series being very different to E series so it is impossible to use C parts in E gearbox...


Nup, the supercharged models also used an E series box.
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:17 pm

ok i took 3 bolts out the centre where the clutch goes then i took all the bolts out all around the diff and wherever i could find one that holds that section on the the clutch goes(im not too sure what you call that front section). I then tapped the gearbox mount with a hammer and it came apart quite easily but then it stopped there it budged about 2cm and wouldnt go any further. WHat am i missing am i taking it apart from the wrong side? HELP!
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Postby AceSniper » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:57 pm

ment to take it apart from the top and work your way down, on a c series you have to remove 5th gear
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:02 pm

Oh shit so i have to start from the otherside? damit well lets just hope i havent damaged anything. Oh well its all fun and games
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Postby 85AW20v » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:57 pm

There's a linkage in there with - I think - a 12mm head bolt holding it together. You can get at it if you hold the box separated, it's just a bit fiddly.
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Postby flygt4 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:19 pm

IH8TEC wrote:lets put it this way, my ae92 gtz box has NO lsd, and it looks exactly like my other ae92 gtz box that HAS a lsd. this is becuase i put the trd lsd out of the mr2 gearbox i got.

the difference. is that the one without lsd, i can turn shafts individually

and the one with it, i can only turn them the same way with about an inch until it locks it to spin both.



this seems to be a common factor, among mechanical LSD's at least, as brendon shares the same aw11 mechanical diff i have.

by the way, if after pulling it apart you find you dont have a slippy diff,it seems trd dont make their nice slippy diffs for this particular gearbox anymore so you'll probly have to locate an existing one or find another type.
im soon to find out whether its possible to recondition these diffs and the costs involved anyway.
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Postby bluemaumau » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:54 pm

on request

ae101 lsd, hex bar in middle
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ae92 non lsd.
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Postby IH8TEC » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:57 pm

and my plate type lsd looks EXACTLY like that ae92 one just to make things difficult
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:20 pm

There we go in the end mine isnt lsd as it looks the same as that ae92 pic and when i turn the shafts they turn in opposite directions. Sorry guys for all the confusion im new in the driveline area. Man im massively fukced :evil: off, i bought the box being told it was an ae101 lsd then found out it was an ae92 and now its not even a lsd damn im not happy. But hey ill have to see what happens.
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Postby AceSniper » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:21 pm

Id still check on that.... if it is a open diff it must be 4 pinion, with the plate lsd's in c series aw11 look like that ae92 diff

the ae101 diff above is only 2pinion kinda suprised its lsd....
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Postby IH8TEC » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:28 pm

101 gtz's are a viscous lsd
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:53 pm

AceSniper wrote:Id still check on that.... if it is a open diff it must be 4 pinion, with the plate lsd's in c series aw11 look like that ae92 diff


I cant pull the damn thing down. Firstly ive lost all motivation knowing its not lsd, secondly i dnt think ill ever be able to put it back together.
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Postby flygt4 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:29 pm

if you really want a slippy diff, then a gearbox maniac could probly sort something out for you.

a worn diff may also show the same symptoms as an open diff too, mine was still tight enough to skip on tight turns, but it would open up a wheel over a certain power level. it also lost its ability to lock up with one wheel jacked.
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:34 pm

YEah but mine when in neutral i turn one shaft and it turns the other one in the opposite direction. Doesnt that mean its open diff?
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Postby flygt4 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:51 pm

hmm unsure sorry, id say your best bet would be to visit a gearbox maniac who does it for a living.
at the end of the day we are all just like you anyway , i removed my gearbox with a grinder ffs. and there doesnt seem to be many people on here who know technical shit about transmissions, only what theyve experienced first hand.
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Postby bluemaumau » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:02 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:YEah but mine when in neutral i turn one shaft and it turns the other one in the opposite direction. Doesnt that mean its open diff?


i thought that meant it was lsd. with my ae92 non lsd (when jaked up) if i spun one wheel the other would just sit there
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:06 am

Well i cant find the post but someone said that they sot a gearbox out of a crashed mr2 and was wanting to know what oil to use he explained that when he turns one shaft the other turns the same way. Mine turn opposite ways..........
i thought that meant it was lsd. with my ae92 non lsd (when jaked up) if i spun one wheel the other would just sit there
I know what you mean my c56 box when jacked up i spin one wheel the other one doesnt do anything it just sits here but my e52 box spins opposite ways. I dunno i thought it was supposed to spin the same way. :roll:
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Postby crispy'86 » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:01 am

usually depending on the typr of lsd, if it is definitely lsd the shafts should spin the same direction (again depends if it's viscous or not) as viscous won't operate the same as a mechanical type lsd. Mechanical spins the same direction, viscous doesn't operate until there is sufficient load on it through wheel spin and the viscous oil heats up. Kind of hard to do this when the gearbox is sitting on the garage floor.
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Postby no_8wire » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:38 pm

Whats your location?
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