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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:19 pm

IIRC, it wasnt the piston that got damaged, it was the bore.
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Postby Anth_555 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:58 pm

do all gen3s have ct20b s ? im sure clints st205 had a ct26 on it
the houseings were the same as my ct26 of my 185
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Postby vvega » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:19 pm

Mmm, Boost wrote:IIRC, it wasnt the piston that got damaged, it was the bore.

it would be imposible to damage the bore with the ring without damaging the ring
but hey pigs fly sometimes

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Postby RedMist » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:56 pm

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Mmm, Boost wrote:IIRC, it wasnt the piston that got damaged, it was the bore.

it would be imposible to damage the bore with the ring without damaging the ring land
but hey pigs fly sometimes

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Postby vvega » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:17 pm

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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:41 pm

Would catching a ring against the ringland do much damage?
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Postby vvega » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:47 pm

anythign that scratchs or rounds the edge of the ring grooves is bad
its teh wide flate surfaces it ataull seals on...in case you dint know
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Postby Akane » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:37 am

Or you can do a Kenny, have bits of CT26's turbine sitting in the bore while doing 3000rpm. That surely damaged the bores without damaging the ringlands (for about 0.1 of a sec).
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Postby fivebob » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:43 pm

Anth_555 wrote:do all gen3s have ct20b s ? im sure clints st205 had a ct26 on it
the houseings were the same as my ct26 of my 185

Yes all Gen III's have a CT20B, or whatever you want to call it. The housing is not the same as the CT26 of the earlier 3S-GTE's, for a start it doesn't have "CT-26" cast into it.
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Postby TRDmod » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:22 pm

i have joined forums around uk
and people there are runni8ng 400-450 bhp on standard internals with out problems
no water injectors
just good tune
the pistons according to tuners and people there are very good and internals in general and definately up to it up to 400ish
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Re: pistons

Postby fivebob » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:48 pm

TRDmod wrote:i have joined forums around uk
and people there are running 400-450 b(ullshit)hp on standard internals with out problems

Corrected for truth :roll:

The poms claim to be able to measure crankshaft HP by applying huge amounts of transmission loss to a measured figure at the wheels. Losses that if they were correct would boil the oil, and melt the gearbox casing in a very short time :evil:

In this case 400-450HP probably translates to around 300-330 ATW, not a huge stretch for a stock 3S.
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Re: pistons

Postby RomanV » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:50 pm

TRDmod wrote:i have joined forums around uk
and people there are.......


That was as far as I needed to go, reading that post. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Skin » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:50 am

ha its been discussed time and time again, but do you really think your going to lose 100hp+ throught the drive train? I mean think of the heat that would generate, you would melt down your gearbox in no time at all. A drive train loss is going to be constant, no matter what power your putting out.
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Postby sergei » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:13 am

Look at it other way - have you tried to rotate the input shaft on the gearbox by hand? Not very hard, is it? This is your drive train loss, and no way your hand produces even near 100hp (I know you rotate it much slower, but friction is pretty much constant). Look at this even other way if drive train would require 100hp to operate the car would simply not roll at all (as in brake hard) if you would press the clutch in while doing say 100km/h...
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:57 am

to give an idea of the power made by a human...... the avergae person on a pushbike makes 1/4 hp, someone like lance armstrong 1/2hp.
so think how little you make with ya hand turning that input shaft.....
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