How do i mod a diesel engine????

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Postby skoty » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:18 pm

Diesel motors are all about torque. I'm sure you could increase the torque output however power would be a different story. Therfore I doubt you will easily get a higher top speed or better acceleration. At the end of the day diesels are mostly found in vans, utes, trucks, SUVs because they are better at carrying weight.
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Postby fivebob » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:49 pm

skoty wrote:Diesel motors are all about torque. I'm sure you could increase the torque output however power would be a different story. Therfore I doubt you will easily get a higher top speed or better acceleration. At the end of the day diesels are mostly found in vans, utes, trucks, SUVs because they are better at carrying weight.

So how do you increase torque without increasing power? :?

BTW more HP = higher top speed, more torque = better acceleration. So are you contradicting yourself and saying that neither are able to be increased?

FWIW you could just turn up the fuel pump, but it will smoke, better to bolt a turbo on to it first. But if it's 2L series engine it's not likely to survive very long.
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Postby stalker » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:57 pm

I remember there was a guy in Tauranga that had a marine business and one of his work vehicles was a old Mitzy mirage wagon (diesel)..and he did a few thngs to it...and once he finished, it managed to beat some turbo'd cars out there (ie. mazda familias etc) and lots of hondas. This thing was very fast...no one beleaved him that it was a diesel until he would fill it up.
This was going back 10 years here.
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Postby thaphatty » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:42 pm

fivebob wrote:So how do you increase torque without increasing power? :?


Drop it back from 4th to 1st :wink:
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Postby stalker » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:20 pm

hmmmmm...wat about NOS???
(can it even be done on a diesel engine?)

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Postby t0ms » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:44 pm

guy at work has a 3.1 turbo isuzu bighorn motor making 100kw but producing over 600 nm of torque... diesels are funny like that. its not "fast" but you throw 2 tonne of boat behind it and it doesnt go any slower....

as for nos, it doesnt work on diesels. they run LPG injection. same effect as nos
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Postby Adamal » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:22 am

I say just get yourself one of those old R10 engines. You know, the ones from Audi.

Then as an added bonus, you can compete in Le Mans :)
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Postby macabre » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:37 am

stalker wrote:I remember there was a guy in Tauranga that had a marine business and one of his work vehicles was a old Mitzy mirage wagon (diesel)..and he did a few thngs to it...and once he finished, it managed to beat some turbo'd cars out there (ie. mazda familias etc) and lots of hondas. This thing was very fast...no one beleaved him that it was a diesel until he would fill it up.
This was going back 10 years here.
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Ha i knew tha guy,it popped engines so much he used to be able to change and engine it in a hour and half or some crazy shit. He also used to have some fast as $&#$% bambina too. And something else maybe a civic?
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Postby thaphatty » Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:23 am

Our work van is a 5 cy 160hp chiesel turbo, unsure of rated torque.

Dont notice having a race car on the back of it :D

Comes with the 90k price tag :cry:
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:23 am

You can use NOS on anything that employes combustion (in terms of Oxygen + Fuel).... In fact you could use pure NOS without any air to run an engine.
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Postby Lith » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:53 am

The thing is never going to scare a Honda - even the slowest of them with a 2.4 NA Diesel. You can get some reasonable performance out of Diesel Turbos though.... the Cummins 5.9l motors in Dodge Rams go hard on 40psi with exhaust, front mount, intake and some "tuning".

sergei wrote:You can use NOS on anything that employes combustion (in terms of Oxygen + Fuel).... In fact you could use pure NOS without any air to run an engine.


Where did you hear that?? Under high temperature/pressure it just splits up into nitrogen and oxygen - which funnily enough, is what our atmosphere. You're essentially saying you can run the engine without fuel if you run nitrous?!

<edit> I'm a tard - I read "air" as "petrol" for some reason. Yes you can definitely run a car without air with nitrous :) You'd need a hell of a tank though haha.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:56 am

id put in a 2lte out of a surf,
bin the turbo and fit a s/c as i mentioned above.
just keep the boost under 10psi


lith, havnt you see the fast and the furious? that NAWWS stuff explodes! 8O
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:41 am

NOS + anything that burnes in oxygene = Rocket Fuel
anything that burnes in oxygene includes:
Petrol,
Diesel,
Kerosene,
Naphta,
Oil,
Paraphine
Fat,
Sugar,
Rubber,
Cellulose,
Salami and other solid foods
Various metals
Carbon

Back on topic:
It is great idea to use SC14 on 2L engine ;). I was really tempted to do it on my dad Hiace, the main problem was there not enough room to fit it in there...
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Postby Lith » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:49 am

Dude - I edited it before you responded.... I had read what you said wrong. Why bother correcting me when I already have? :roll:

SC14 could be interesting on a 2l motor.... though didn't they come from a 1GGZE? Would make a lot of sense if so ;) Probably quite good on a motor which isn't going to rev, ie - Diesel... overdrive it a little haha.
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Postby sergei » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:00 pm

Sorry I was typing too slow
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Postby skoty » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:43 pm

t0ms wrote:guy at work has a 3.1 turbo isuzu bighorn motor making 100kw but producing over 600 nm of torque... diesels are funny like that. its not "fast" but you throw 2 tonne of boat behind it and it doesnt go any slower....



Thats exactly what I was trying to explain before :wink: "fivebob" was in disbelief however :roll: Anyway don't want to have a debate about this fullstop. :)
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Postby fivebob » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:07 pm

skoty wrote:
t0ms wrote:guy at work has a 3.1 turbo isuzu bighorn motor making 100kw but producing over 600 nm of torque... diesels are funny like that. its not "fast" but you throw 2 tonne of boat behind it and it doesnt go any slower....



Thats exactly what I was trying to explain before :wink: "fivebob" was in disbelief however :roll: Anyway don't want to have a debate about this fullstop. :)

I was in disbelief about this;
I'm sure you could increase the torque output however power would be a different story


I agree there is no debate about it. Can't be done, simple as that (unless you count changing to a lower gear :roll: )
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Postby stalker » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:46 pm

hmmmmm, so sounds like i pushing s**t up hill on this one.
(i still feel the need to do something to try and be a bit different)

Ok.......wat about a s/charger???
SC14???
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:43 am

stalker wrote:hmmmmm, so sounds like i pushing s**t up hill on this one.
(i still feel the need to do something to try and be a bit different)

Ok.......wat about a s/charger???
SC14???
:lol:


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Postby stalker » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:27 am

Mr Revhead wrote:
stalker wrote:hmmmmm, so sounds like i pushing s**t up hill on this one.
(i still feel the need to do something to try and be a bit different)

Ok.......wat about a s/charger???
SC14???
:lol:


um, go back and read my posts!



yea i kno...just trying to get off the subject of changing gears.... :lol:
(and get a few more ideas etc)
Plus does anyone know wat the compression ratio is on the 2.4 diesel engines???
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