method wrote:Even production Vs production i dont think toyota would win in the NA stakes.
the 1600cc civic type R's vs 20valves. 20 valves are pretty average from factory.. where as the type R's are fairly race orientated for a mass produced car
the 1800cc type R tegs would clean up any standard 1800cc toyota.
The s2000's would be my pick against a beams MR2 or Alteza. They have 50/50 weight distribution like the MR2 but in turn are lighter and make more power.
After all Mr'2s arnt even raced in the super GT. Supras are put up against the s2000's.
The s2000's can even claim the most KW per displacement out of any production engine. Even such engines as what go in super cars that are pretty much hand made.
As for turbo'd cars. Toyotas supra would definatly eat up a turbo honda legend/saber what ever their turbo cruiser is.
But then as far as turbo cars go id rather have a mitsubishi or nissan . What toyota has left a racing legacy like the evo or skyline GTR?
Toyotas are simple the best bang for buck, they are cheap, go hard and dont break. And when they do break they are cheap to repair.
Toyotas claim to fame is cost and reliability, not so much racing. Enter the all mighty Corolla. And the corolla i do love3 out of 6 cars ive owned have been corollas, and by far have given me the least amount of problems!
The only class of car id pick a toyota for is the 1300cc. Go the starlets. Unbeatable
Method while I agree with some of what you say some of it I don't agree with.Why a Mitsi or a Nissan you must be joking right you have spoke about reliability but believe it or not first you must finish to win a race.If I use the 2JZ as a example you simply don't have to do alot get alot where as a RB26 or 4g63 you have to do oodles to get the power and reliability of the above mentioned Toyota motor.Again at the factory level with basic upgrades I'd put the Supra up there with any import and this is not a biased opinion it is from many track-days that I have attended over the last 5 years and have been out on the track able to compare my car against the others.With all I've seen in the last 5 years the only car that I have felt helpless against out on the track was a Porsche GT3 RS everything else with basic performance mods where it be Jap Euro or American my car has beaten or been right there all this from a car that turns 14 years old this year..
