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Postby ollieboy » Mon May 07, 2007 11:58 pm

In the bits you quoted I am saying its a short term fix while you are sorting out springs, I don't see what you are trying to get at. Unless you twist my words it still doesn't say anything about determining springs, it simply says while you are sorting springs out you can use this technique for the short term.
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Postby sergei » Tue May 08, 2007 12:21 am

I have a general question:
Why there a such a need, an urge, an itch to lower the car the most unsafe way (like cutting springs or through these claps).
Lowering the car in general by just changing spring rate or height will not result in better handling.
The funny thing is that people pay money to devalue their cars!
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Postby Blown5k » Tue May 08, 2007 9:25 pm

Lowering a car and changing the spring rate will actually improve handling in most cars by lowering the cg of the car,idiots that ride around on or close to the bumpstops unlaidened then chuck their "mates" in the car are asking to die.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue May 08, 2007 9:30 pm

sergei wrote:I have a general question:
Why there a such a need, an urge, an itch to lower the car the most unsafe way (like cutting springs or through these claps).


I think a big part of it is due to young fullas wanting their car to be low (which looks cool au) but not having the coin to do it properly.
I know I've had several young guys come in to work and baulk at the $400 required to buy a set of lowering springs.
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Postby vvega » Tue May 08, 2007 10:18 pm

Blown5k wrote:Lowering a car and changing the spring rate will actually improve handling in most cars by lowering the cg of the car,idiots that ride around on or close to the bumpstops unlaidened then chuck their "mates" in the car are asking to die.
There is a safe way to do something and an unsafe way.


that is completely debatible
lowering yoru cg lets you cange directions(flipflob) far more stably.....
as for stabiliy round a coner....
id take a pepsi challange on that
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Postby Blown5k » Tue May 08, 2007 10:46 pm

Good as gold you flipflob your way around the track whilst drinking your pepsi and i`ll go around the track my way and never the twain shall meet.
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Postby vvega » Wed May 09, 2007 6:26 pm

were talking about teh street here not the track
if its a track then yeah that differnt ....no big bumps nice constant surface

on a road its a completely differnt story.......
i have race suspenion in my car...on teh road its almost dangerious

on some nice smooth tarmac.....its a transformed car
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Postby Bling » Wed May 09, 2007 10:05 pm

but surely on the street, 2 identical cars, one standard height, one with a lower cg, which is going to be nicer to go around corners in?

I know which option i'd go for.
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Postby vvega » Wed May 09, 2007 10:16 pm

depnds on a lot of things
has the rate of dampining been increased to stop you bottoming out...
if you bottom out you lose grip and become unstable
im talkign abotu road...not smooth tarmac


are yoru suspenion arms still in the opimin angle to give good resposnce....

remeber in most road cars when you lower the car the result from the arch of suspen atually means you also decrease your track(width)
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