mega grunty honda motors

[Mr Revhead]

split from the 20v thread

anyone got tech info on highpower honda motors?


link up some info for the honda haters here (me included ) to look at


id like to see a 240hp n/a b16a please

and doesnt have to be in a road car!

who the hell would want one in a road car? itd be horrible

[Dragger_Dan]

I know it says turbo hondas on the picture but the info above the graph is it.
The setup is webbers and 15:1 compression on a d16a6 non vtec.
I know it's not 240, but pretty damn impressive

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1118959


The silver civic up in whangarei by the Workshop X boys is $&#$% fast, have no idea what that is in numbers, but definately would rival any 4AGE i've seen.

[deanis]

id like to see a 240hp n/a b16a please

plenty of 200whp (230/240 at the fly) b16a's in here. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1583606&page=1 and a lot more 250whp b18c's

[Lith]

actually no its not....
id like to see a 240hp n/a b16a please

and doesnt have to be in a road car!

Easy one, there was an Oz Targa (I think?) race car developed in the 80s and into the early 90s running a ZC making ~240hp and dominating its class. B16As have a much better r/s ratio, and it has been used around the place.

Can you show us a 240hp N/A 4AGE?

[soopachargen]

The silver civic up in whangarei by the Workshop X boys is $&#$% fast, have no idea what that is in numbers, but definately would rival any 4AGE i've seen.

jimmys car just has intake/header/exhaust and a gizmo tune... the secret to that little rocket is the peddler, he doesnt boast about how fast he is... he goes to pukekohe and taupo and proves it often beating more worked cars.

[Mr Revhead]

ok, by see i want details! pictures! how they did it....
im not sayign i dont beleive it, but i genuinly want to see articles etc
240 from 1600cc is cool no matter what it is

[Lith]

ok, by see i want details! pictures! how they did it....
im not sayign i dont beleive it, but i genuinly want to see articles etc
240 from 1600cc is cool no matter what it is

This is the best I can find without spending silly time looking for it:

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ThreadPage=1&ForumID=10&TopicID=163820&PagePosition=1

Its a review of a DVD series showing how to build an NA "street" B16A capable of making 200hp @ wheels on pump gas. The highest that particular build dyno'd at was 206whp, which by my very rough calcs works out as near 240hp @ crank. Buying the DVD is one way of getting into on it, otherwise I'm sure its possible to find that DVD on the net somewhere haha.

[Dragger_Dan]

Look on youtube for the trailers for that movie, best search is '200 is just a number' I think.

[deanis]

ive got that dvd. its quite good. they spend loads of money on the head and some good pistons and thats about it really. stock block and crank. standard rods too. some cool tricks with the rod bearings which im not going to share. good headers. then bin all the air con and powersteering and stuff. its not hard to make hondas pull these numbers. just big cams and compression. these motors are not revving out to 12,000 rpm or anything. most would be pulling 9-10 to make that power. they drive the car around town and do it on a few peoples dynos too so its not rigged or anything.

[Mr Revhead]

yeah same as 4age really.
like everything..... more air, more squeeze more bang
its just in what form the bang is in.....

[Dragger_Dan]

Does anybody here actually have a heavily modified 20v NA? That has actually been dynoed and dragged?

Who would be best for high comp pistons for 20v? It seems a lot easier to find lower comp for turbo than it is high comp for a good NA tune. I haven't really looked that hard but I'm considering future options.

[Mr Revhead]

little birdy told me arias now do 20v pistons

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

I am just about to complete my rebuilt 20V RPM screamer, has had full porting job, huge cams, adj cam gears, balanced bottom end, link G3 going in for dyno on friday afternoon.

all the other usuall stuff, acid dip race bearings etc etc.

[Lith]

I am just about to complete my rebuilt 20V RPM screamer, has had full porting job, huge cams, adj cam gears, balanced bottom end, link G3 going in for dyno on friday afternoon.

all the other usuall stuff, acid dip race bearings etc etc.

Sounds awesome!! Please post results once its tuned

What are your targets? Whats the intentions for the car?

[barryogen]

i wonder what engines people will be comparing in 15 years time

Toyota 2zzge and whatever the early 2000 Hondas had in their Type R

[AceSniper]

TODA, Aries.... custom JE CP etc, Toms no longer make them nor does TRD.

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

well im aiming for 200 whp, probably a bit high .....

Just a street car, however will see the track occasionaly when its up to standard.. have had alot of advice and help from Acesniper much thanks to him.

will let you know when its all go... friday 8th is only base tune so i can run the engine in then a week later its the final one.

[Defective]

well im aiming for 200 whp, probably a bit high .....

Just a street car, however will see the track occasionaly when its up to standard.. have had alot of advice and help from Acesniper much thanks to him.

will let you know when its all go... friday 8th is only base tune so i can run the engine in then a week later its the final one.

do you wanna give us a ballpark figure on cost so far?

im very very curious....

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

ive spent over 5k, i dont want to share the full cost ..... i have done extras aswell, oil cooler kit with braided lines, gauges, clutch assembly etc

[Lith]

Toyota 2zzge and whatever the early 2000 Hondas had in their Type R

That doesn't sound very fair - the 2ZZGE and the B18C-R are more of a comparison, despite the B18C-R being effectively a generation behind. The K20A is lightyears ahead of any of the other 2litre NAs in my opinion.