Clutch Change

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Postby solitaire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:18 pm

Right...

So albany toyota quoted $620+gst (incl 220 for the clutch) they said it was 4 hours labour

Giltrap Toyota quoted $200 for the clutch kit, 4.5 hours of labour @ $84.50+gst per hour (said maybe finished in 4 hours) + $65 to skim the flywheel IF it needed skimming

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Postby Ae92typeX » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:34 pm

God, a skim costs a bit now days!. I usually buy my clutch kits from tradeparts and they have always given it a skim for free when I take the flyweel in when purchasing.
Did you ask albany if it was included in the price?
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Postby solitaire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:39 pm

Ae92typeX wrote:God, a skim costs a bit now days!. I usually buy my clutch kits from tradeparts and they have always given it a skim for free when I take the flyweel in when purchasing.
Did you ask albany if it was included in the price?
Nah but im guessing it doesnt... I really want to take up Boosted_162's kind offer but its the daily driver and the misus will go spare at me if i buy the wrong part and have the car out of action for a week :cry:
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Postby rollaholic » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:50 pm

if you buy the kit from toyota (or revvy, even better) you wont get the wrong part, provided you've got the original engine / gearbox setup in it since they'll look it up off the frame / model numbers.

the only problem with a weekender is the flywheel skim - all the clutch kits i've seen require a skim for the warranty to be valid, like revhead said... but not many places will be open to do it on a weekend.

in the past i've done home jobs by taking the box out on a thursday night, getting the flywheel skimmed friday day, then putting it back together friday night / the weekend / whatever.

also gives you a chance to compare your new clutch parts with the old ones, to be 100% sure you have what you need.

not exactly ideal for the daily driver to be off the road for two week days though.

now that i think of it, i've got the flywheel off my smallport just sitting in the corner collecting dust at work. if you want to take my flywheel, get it machined, then give me your old one once its out of the car, that'd be fine with me.
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Postby solitaire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:52 pm

rollaholic wrote:...
Hmm... Good point i had not thought of that...

I rang your work today... they are going to come back to me with a price
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Postby rollaholic » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:00 pm

i think i edited after you replied - if you want to do a flywheel exchange thing with me let me know ;)
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Postby solitaire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:04 pm

rollaholic wrote:i think i edited after you replied - if you want to do a flywheel exchange thing with me let me know ;)
Oh wow, very kind, thanks mate ill will keep you in mind :D
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Postby Caveman » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:52 pm

honestly clutch is one of the bitchest jobs on a car, I would rather do an engine swap than a clutch job haha

it usually works out easier pulling the motor and changing the clutch. On teh smallport you need to remove 4 of the 5 engine mounts + drive shafts to get the box off, plus its a pita with space.

It nice and easy to remove 2 mounts + subframe, drop the guts out the bottom then you have heaps of space to do a good job 8)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 pm

what car are you talking about??
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Postby Caveman » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:10 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:what car are you talking about??

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also borrow one of those clutch aligning tools off a mechanic buddy because they make the job x10 easier.
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Postby solitaire » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:11 pm

Caveman wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:what car are you talking about??

ae92

also borrow one of those clutch aligning tools off a mechanic buddy because they make the job x10 easier.
Nice one thanks mate :D after your advice i am leaning towards paying to get it done :wink:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:13 pm

hell removing the engine is a bit extreme 8O

personaly id prefer to pull the axles, and drop the box
a lot less work, and the less you play with the less chance you have to incorperate "shit happens" into the job.

and wheres the 5th mount?
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Postby rollaholic » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:27 pm

i hate the idea of doing a clutch without a hoist personally, but so long as theres two of you its defintely do-able, assuming one of you knows wtf he is doing :P
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:31 pm

oh hell yeah, hoist makes it a LOT easier :D
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Postby Caveman » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:52 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:hell removing the engine is a bit extreme 8O

personaly id prefer to pull the axles, and drop the box
a lot less work, and the less you play with the less chance you have to incorperate "sh*t happens" into the job.

and wheres the 5th mount?

4 gearbox, two on each side, one on the end to the chassis rail and one on the bottom on the cross member. 5th obviously is on the motor.

yea I guess the shit happens when removing all the other crap, like PS AC etc. I forget about all that cos I never have it on my cars :lol:

either way probably works out the same time, I just find it much less painful dropping the motor when working on it.
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Postby Ae92typeX » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:09 am

Clutches ain't fun, but I would hardly rate them as one of the worst jobs. Ive done several ae92's by myself with just a jack and stands. A hoist would make things easier, but still just a day job for a home mechanic. Stuff taking an engine out of a a ae## to do a clutch, but we all have our own preferences. If one was doing cambelt, seals etc at the same time then sure.
& yeah, an alignment tool is cheap enough to buy (or make if you have the means) and helps a lot when fitting.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:32 am

Caveman wrote: one on the bottom on the cross member. 5th obviously is on the motor.


thats a vibration damper. only had em on the ae92s.

but yeah, removing the engine to do a clutch in a corolla is a bit extreme!
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Postby rollaholic » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm

Ae92typeX wrote:Clutches ain't fun, but I would hardly rate them as one of the worst jobs. Ive done several ae92's by myself with just a jack and stands. A hoist would make things easier, but still just a day job for a home mechanic. Stuff taking an engine out of a a ae## to do a clutch, but we all have our own preferences. If one was doing cambelt, seals etc at the same time then sure.
& yeah, an alignment tool is cheap enough to buy (or make if you have the means) and helps a lot when fitting.


hehe i guess im just spoiled with weekend access to my workplace, i've always got a hoist when i want one.
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Postby Ae92typeX » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:09 pm

nice, that would be so handy at times
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Postby Zak » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:06 pm

solitaire wrote:Giltrap Toyota quoted $200 for the clutch kit, 4.5 hours of labour @ $84.50+gst per hour (said maybe finished in 4 hours) + $65 to skim the flywheel IF it needed skimming

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I work there, that sounds like a normal quote. It depends who ends up with the job, (chances are it would be me or the guy next to me) if it's a reasonably looked after and all straight forward it would be about 3.5 hours. But alot of things can and more often than not do go wrong.

Our labour is a little over the top though... considering I only see $11 an hour from it :evil:

If your looking for a cheap job giltrap isn't the place for you, all though you will get a good job done the majority of the time.
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