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Postby vvtirep » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:51 pm

hey guys.
i have a 1996 toyota levin ae111. i have been having some engine troubles and the engine has been holding back. so i thought hmm missfire??it sounds like a misfire? so i thought well the spark plugs hasnt been changed i betta change em. so i did.
after changing them the problem is still happening. so i thought well the otha week the engine oil was on like half so i checked it this afternoon and it was just below low on the dip stick!!
this means in under 5000kms i have used 4litres of oil!
i asked my brother which has the same car and his car seems to eat oil real fast.
does anyone have this problem aswell or is it totaly normal.
any solutions????
any help wouldbe awsome!
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Postby Ae92typeX » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:02 pm

so you have been topping up the oil yes?- otherwise usually f-l on the dipstick is about 1L
20v's can use a bit of oil. What oil are you using and what mileage?

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Postby vvtirep » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:11 pm

yea ive been keeping it between f-l. i was meaning to check again last week cos i remeber it being jst ova half and nw it supa low.
im using castrol magnetec 10w-40

so i just used a whole bottle(4L) over 5000kms.

i bought the car at 119000kms and did a full oil change at 120000
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Postby postfach » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:18 pm

vvtirep wrote:so i just used a whole bottle(4L) over 5000kms.


That doesn't sound so good....Is it smokey? Is the sump bolt done up tight and is there a copper washer on there? Checked for leaks from the engine from underneath the car?
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Postby vvtirep » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:32 pm

yea i no. its crazy... is there ment to be a bronze washer on the sump :?: ill have 2 chack tht cos i dunt remember seeing one wen i changed oil last time. will have to look 2morrow.
it dosnt seem to be leaking on to mi driveway at all.
i did have a problem with my oil pressure sender so i removed it and got a bolt to put into the block.
its very odd
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Postby Alex B » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:41 pm

Try something that isnt magnatec, my 3s burns that stuff like crazy, not a problem with GTX protec.
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Postby Bling » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:53 pm

vvtirep wrote:s there ment to be a bronze washer on the sump :?: ill have 2 chack tht cos i dunt remember seeing one wen i changed oil last time. will have to look 2morrow.
it dosnt seem to be leaking on to mi driveway at all.


if its not leaking from the sump plug, then don't worry about buying a bronze washer.

how many Kms on the clock?

I'd use around that much oil too, most of them use oil, the amount just differs car to car I think
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As long as you keep enough oil in it, it shouldn't cause you any issues.
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Postby frost » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:59 pm

i dont get that eating oil problem in my 111 or 86, never had to top it off, maybe your stem seals are gone, seems only some get that problem and some get the handbrake on between 2k-3k feeling.

FYI. full-low is not 4L worth of oil.
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Postby matt dunn » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:05 pm

vvtirep wrote:yea i no. its crazy... is there ment to be a bronze washer on the sump :?: ill have 2 chack tht cos i dunt remember seeing one wen i changed oil last time. will have to look 2morrow.
it dosnt seem to be leaking on to mi driveway at all.
i did have a problem with my oil pressure sender so i removed it and got a bolt to put into the block.
its very odd


So you have a car that is using lots of oil and will probably at some stage run out of oil if you forget to top it up,

and you have removed the oil sender and replaced it with a bolt?


Best you start saving and looking for a second motor now for when your retardedness destroys the one you have now.
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Postby spark_38 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:20 am

i noticed mine used a bit as well in the 6 months between servicing. not sure how much, but not 4L - probably more like 0.5-1L

about a month ago, my oil pressure light was flashing... my mate suggested putting in lucas (same as moreys), an engine oil stabilizer. i think it has similar properties to the magnatec oil - it creates a thin film lubrication on the engine... i pulled off the cam cover and poured it on directly

i did an oil/filter change earlier (while i had the car jacked up) and noticed there was bugger all drained out. the lucas had caused it to go all dark and thick, as the engine was still warm most of it probably hadn't settled back into the sump

the factory oil pressure sender units apparently only register if it the oil pressure drops below 5psi. the aftermarket electronic autometer gauges are much better - although i haven't upgraded yet
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Postby vvtirep » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:29 pm

Best you start saving and looking for a second motor now for when your retardedness destroys the one you have now.


wtf?it was a modified oil pressure sender for an auto guage but it did not fit straight into the block so it had a spacer rod to clear the bracket(all installed before i bought the car). after doin some long distance traveling the viabrations and the weight of the oil pressure sender snapped this spacer rod. so i fixd it and the same thng happened again. so i got it professionaly removed and the sump sealed up.???
how the hell is tht retardation ..?

how ever i did lose some of this oil wen the oil pressure sender snapped. so i had to toped it up . the car has just ticked over to 125000kms....
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Postby rollaholic » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:07 pm

it wasnt clear from your initial post that it was an aftermarket addition - matt probably thought you had thrown out the stock sender.
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:21 pm

Thats what I thought he was meaning too.


Is it actually smoking or anything?

Get rid of the Magnatec and put something else in. Try some Protec 15W40 and see if you get any difference
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:48 pm

Or just try a mineral 20w40 or 20w50. Shitty thin synthetic oils tend to dissapear out of aging jap motors quite quickly.

Case and point - My brother had a 1.8 mitsi libero. Made the mistake of putting 10wsomethingarather synthetic in it, some ugly blue crap that looked like window cleaner. Very next day it's blowing smoke and using oil. Changes the oil and filter, goes back to good old GTX 20w40. Everything goes back to normal, car runs fine. Car had something like 145000k on it.
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Postby AceSniper » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:32 pm

wouldnt use magnatec mine eats it with-in a week or two and engines in good shape...

if you can find it.... the below oil has run very well in mine under hard driving and not vanished like the magnatec

http://www.valvoline.co.nz/prod01211111.htm
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Postby Zak » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:40 pm

We use the magnitec stuff at work be it a dihatsu or a hilux... we don't seem to have any trouble with it though.

I don't like the stuff, no acctual reason behind it. I've all ways used good old shell helix in my cars. Never had a problem with it, and untill I do, I will continue to use it.
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Postby matt dunn » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:14 pm

vvtirep wrote:i did have a problem with my oil pressure sender so i removed it and got a bolt to put into the block.



The way that read it made it sound like you took out the oil sender and put a bolt in there to fill the whole so there is no oil light or gauge.

That is retarded.

If you still have a light/gauge etc then thats ok.
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Postby Lloyd » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:23 pm

AceSniper wrote:wouldnt use magnatec mine eats it with-in a week or two and engines in good shape...

if you can find it.... the below oil has run very well in mine under hard driving and not vanished like the magnatec

http://www.valvoline.co.nz/prod01211111.htm


Repco used to stock it, not entirely sure if they do now or not. Repco and probably even supercheap should be able to get it no trouble, or any garage that uses Valvoline oil.
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Postby spark_38 » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:32 pm

The Valvoline VR1 is available from any Repco and Supercheap store, in fact the whole Valvoline range is... My mates all use it in their Subies (as they take 4.5L of oil)
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Postby Tumacki » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:11 pm

your lucky you caught it. i diddnt in my ae111 and its fuked the main bearing. rebuild time. thank god for insurance. only done 117,000kms and got servied at 110,000.
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