Car crushing

[FST4RD]

So i'm not sure if it's a rumour or not someone could enlighten me, but I have heard that if you are caught doing anything a "boy racer" would do, ie. loss of traction, drag racing etc that the police have the power to confiscate your car with out a warning and throw it in a crusher and put the video on youtube.

Now this got me to thinking, would this apply to anyone? ie. some little old lady who riding the clutch happy who breaks traction on a wet day, or will it just be someone that the police deem to be a "boyracer"?

Won't this cause more car chases? Say you accidentally drop the clutch a little to hard and you do a wee wheelspin and there happens to be a cop near by and see's you and you were one of those sorts of people who doesn't want to lose their ride but thinks they can get away from the cops then they will try and get away?

I think they are going over board if this happens, and if it does I hope it's one rule for all, from little old ladies to the boyracers to the cops themselves.

By the way does anyone know how many cops have been caught by speed cameras? Just curious to know.

[Cakky]

I think they are trialing it in australia, or already doing it, not here.... yet.

[Mr.Phreak]

Crushing is generally for repeat offenders and those guys clocking up massive debts in fines

[FST4RD]

Yeah see I heard that they were going to have the power to take it off you then and there and crush it... hmmm

What happened to the old days back in the mid 90's when nothing like this was even thought off, and you struggled to see a cop in town on a sat night... Must be something to do with the newer generation (geez i'm showing my age ) and the fact that they can tick up a $20g car with out a second thought.

i say bring in something similar to what aussie has, no turbo's or powerful cars until a certain age/experience/licence.

[l1ttle_d3vil]

...the police have the power to confiscate your car with out a warning and throw it in a crusher and put the video on youtube.

sounds like a stupid rumour to me. would the cops really put the videos on youtube? unless someone has just added a bit more "drama" to it somewhere along the lines?

i have heard talk of cops crushing cars in NZ. not sure if it was something they said should be done, or would be done though...

[FST4RD]

...the police have the power to confiscate your car with out a warning and throw it in a crusher and put the video on youtube.

sounds like a stupid rumour to me. would the cops really put the videos on youtube? unless someone has just added a bit more "drama" to it somewhere along the lines?

i have heard talk of cops crushing cars in NZ. not sure if it was something they said should be done, or would be done though...

Think it was to show people what they can do, and what better way to get the message to young people....

[AE82 FXGT]

It'll be cool if they did that to people with massive unpaid fines etc.

But otherwise seems a bit extreme.

[FST4RD]

It'll be cool if they did that to people with massive unpaid fines etc.

But otherwise seems a bit extreme.

I agree except maybe they should have a 3 strike rule or something?

Also when your on your learner motorbike licence your only allowed to ride up to a 250cc (albeit some of the 2 stroke 250's are death bullets) they should definately do the same thing for cars... say on learners only up to 1300cc then restricted 1500cc and then once you get your full and your over 25 unlimited....

[AE82 FXGT]

That would be cool, but I reckon restricted should be 1600cc (cause then I couldn't have had the mighty fxgt!)

[darkwolf]

The problem is with any type of extreme punishment like this - that people will run, either to protect their "Strikes" or to protect their car. Just as some people run to protect their licence.

I'm by no means a boy racer and my car has had little to no work done on it, but if I knew that my car was going to be crushed I'd hoof it.

I think more power needs to be given to police to end a pursuit in a way they see as safe rather than watching some twat in a massively powered vehicle run a corner wide and wipe out innocent people. In a situation like this I'm almost certain I'd pull over, just because I was afraid of losing my car, and knew that I could retain my car by pulling over.

Bottom line - If I know that my car is at risk of being crushed for pulling over or not, I think I'm more likely to run.

[FST4RD]

yeah i thought it would end in more car chases....
But they should do what they do in the good old US of A and just ram them or shoot their tyres out....

I do think that no turbo's or superchargers until your both on your full and over 25 would make a huge improvement over the current situation though. I'm 27 and been there and done that and think this is a great idea...

[Si]

The world is going to hell if the cops have rights to do this.

Innocent until proven guilty. Guilty as per a court of law, not some donut munching mofo with a dodgy smelling baton who says he saw you do a mad d1.....

[FST4RD]

The world is going to hell if the cops have rights to do this.

Innocent until proven guilty. Guilty as per a court of law, not some donut munching mofo with a dodgy smelling baton who says he saw you do a mad d1.....

Yeah but the problem with that is where would you stop?
Say cop pulls you over for not indicating out of a round-a-bout and gives you a $60 fine, your not going to go to court just to get proved guilty. You do stupid shitte in places that your not ment to and you should be prepared to face the consiquences. I learnt that about 10 years ago when i was a young nieve driver.

Plus i think if you get caught 3 times and the cops take your car and dispose of it fair enough, it obviously means that your not responsible enough to be behind the wheel.

[big-ben-007]

I'm more of the 'newer breed' of 'boy racer'. I dont speed ever in town bassiclly do nothing illigal, I just like going cruising through welllington having a good time with the boys or my mrs's, but if was going to get pulled knowing that my car would be crushed I would run without a second thought

[FST4RD]

I'm more of the 'newer breed' of 'boy racer'. I dont speed ever in town bassiclly do nothing illigal, I just like going cruising through welllington having a good time with the boys or my mrs's, but if was going to get pulled knowing that my car would be crushed I would run without a second thought

Yeah but you wouldn't get your car taken off you unless you did something wrong... I mean don't get me wrong I do on the odd occasion go for a cruise through christchurch city on a friday and saturday night every so often in my Starion but never drag or do anything like that. I don't want to lose my car so i don't risk it.
My old MR2 (now sean's p.s i want it back ) with the veilside kit and what not, I used to get pulled over at least once a week by a cop, and even when I lived in aussie and my parents used to take it out they got pulled over, and because of the car it was I had to be extra careful about what I did and what not as it seemed to be a cop magnet for some reason.

[Mr.Phreak]

Bottom line - If I know that my car is at risk of being crushed for pulling over or not, I think I'm more likely to run.

I doubt they will give Cops the ability to issue a crush notice on the side of the road, I imagine it will be decided at a court hearing, in which case doing a runner is not going to help your cause.

[gurutasker]

That would be cool, but I reckon restricted should be 1600cc (cause then I couldn't have had the mighty fxgt!)

The problem with restricting it to a certain capacity is that people will work around it. I've seen some pretty fast 1.6L 4 cylinder cars!

[fangsport]

if you ain't done nothing wrong... why fret about it.

i'm a lot older than many on here, and never owned a turbo car, never needed to. but , some of the cars i have owned were well capable of 'lighting the tyres'.
it comes down to commonsense and self-control as to whether you could become a victim of the new policy (should it be introduced).

[sergei]

What government should do is make compulsory track training for every one before getting restricted, also what it should do is make motorsport more widespread and available, encouragement for young drivers to join car clubs and participate in events (perhaps this would contribute to getting their licence quicker, unlike moronic "defensive" driving course which teaches nothing).
The "crushing car" business will only encourage the "boy racers" as it makes much more dangerous for them (they race not because it is safe) and will create another gang like street racer culture. It will go well with the image of the "gangbanger" (aka the idiot in the oversized bright coloured clothes).

[levinguy]

1.6 on n/a is too fast, i rolled my fx-gt between 5-7 times (i do not know) a few weeks into my restricted because i thought i could drive like a god. restricting engine size will do nothing, a compuslory (sp?) proper defensive driving course e.g. skid control, would do wonders for young drivers in nz.

edit - sergei is onto it, he beat me to it - the current defensive driving course's that reduce the amount of time between restricted and full lisences do you nothing apart from teaching you a few Maori terms...., i would not have done mine if they did not reduce the gap between full an restricted