ke30 suspension mods

[79rolla]

ok... its crunch time, iv gotta sort out what im going to do with my suspension and breaks

i have already disided on new shocks and reseting and adding another leaf to the back, am going to keep standard diff and breaks for now.

have ke70 struts atm but dont want to keep (the breaks are too shit for my liking so insted of spending $$ on them ill just get bigger stock ones)


at the front i cannot diside what struts to use, will use new shocks and aftermarket springs,

my one of the potions is crown shocks yes? they have slotted disks dont they? and celeca supra ones if u use the old tophat?

what els can i use?

would like to keep 4x114 stud pattern aswell

i already know that ill have to change the bottem ball joint (is that keep the ke30 one or the one off the new struts?)

thanks any help appreacheated

[Dell'Orto]

Really, any big struts you use will entail new lower arms too, which then turns into shitloads of negative camber.
Maybe get hold of later model KE70 struts, apparently 86 brakes bolt to them.

[Bling]

I swear this thread has come up before

i'd use new ke30 shocks, aftermarket springs (custom ones probably)
new brake rotors and get some GOOD brake pads made up.

why go to the hassle of changing struts to get better braking when i'm sure your current system is fine.

people RACE starlets using uprated pads..... i'm sure yours will be fine.

UNLESS you have actually tried NEW rotors and UPRATED brake pads and its not enough, then fine, go big. However i'm guessing you have only tried rotors that are worn to buggery and pads that are in the same condition. new parts make a big difference

[Dell'Orto]

Also, you'd be surprised at the cost of Wilwood calipers, they're cheaper than new AE86 ones!

[79rolla]

ok... how do i tell if ae86 breaks will fit? apparently my struts are from a dx

where do i get wilwood pads from? can you get them for stock ke30 drum breaks?

i know ae86 springs fit, shocks aswell?

[Dell'Orto]

You get Wilwood pads from Les Hunter, they probably dont do shoe linings. Could probably get race material bonded to them through Race Brakes though.
I'm not entirely sure how you tell, just one of my customers has an AE86, which he put a KE70 strut into and the hub fitted on.

[Mr Revhead]

yeah the KE70 and AE85/6 strut casings and stubs are the same.

a brake upgrade is a must for you i think
have you talked to a cert guy yet?

[d1 mule]

there is no set size etc for brakeing after a conversion, the test is (well was like 2 years ago when i got my 85 certed) 2 or 3 100-0 stops rapidly and have to be within "X" distance. Seeing as i dont no the full extent of your conversion im guessing engine (4age or "T"series from k series) box (T50 from k series.) so really not all that much extra weight you would prob get away with std brakes with new pads and discs. that being said there is realtively easy options like the above mentioned for piece of mind lol

[Mr Revhead]

hes going 2tgeu in a ke30
so i would say a brake upgrade is on the cards
but you should ALWAYS check such things with the cert ppl.
coz at the end of the day, its their say that matters

[79rolla]

havent been abil to talk to cert guy yet, wen i wen up to see him the other day they wernt back yet

so revhead, can you get new ae86 breaks and rotors??

and who do i get race pads from? and shoies for drum breaks?

who is best for springs? ill stick with standard shocks for now...

and will i need a cert for roll bar in back? do i just get one made up? or do i go hunting for one the right size in wreakers?

[Mr Revhead]

yes i can, but youd be better off with some wilwoods as they are cheaper!

[79rolla]

that the whol set up from them??

who sells them in hamilton?

[d1 mule]

do a bit of tinkering man, witha bit of dicking around you will be able to get some x70 series or even x80 series on there. all you will need to do is find and modify the bottom arm, gte the approiate strut, swap top hats or re drill your car, hey presto. there is a thread on www.garagedori.com on all the different LCA lengths widths etc might help ya ill have a look

[79rolla]

rang apex today, was going to be somthing like $800 just for calipers rotors and pads, he recond there wasint alot of point in using wilwood pads eyther so probly just gonna use high proformance pads, on the hunt for some second hand calipers befour i conferm i want pads and rotors...

also rang supention place and got the number of the place they send there leaf springs to get moded, wont be open till next week tho sadly, for aftermarket spring without getting coustm springs made what is a good brand for springs? want good proformance and ferm (nit too hard tho) while not being too low (i live on a ruril road and also dont relly like the sacked out riding on bump stops look or feel)

[lorolla24]

I have AE85 struts in the front of my KE35 which work sweet. and as for brake's there are heaps of bolt on kits for AE85/86's if you have these struts.

I have made some adaptors to put AE101 ZE twin piston calipers and 275mm rotors on.

[Dell'Orto]

Been doing a bit of research, it definately looks like AE86 hubs will bolt onto KE70 struts, which gives you alot more options.

[rollaholic]

i paid $400 for a complete set of 86 front brakes, including struts shocks etc. much cheaper than $800 if price is a concern.

mind you, you never really know what you are getting till it arrives with second hand parts, whereas you know the new stuff will be mint.

and yeah race brakes in auckland will bond upgraded friction material to brake shoes if you wanted to go that route. dunno if they have branches elsewhere?

[Dell'Orto]

Been doing a bit of research, it definately looks like AE86 hubs will bolt onto KE70 struts, which gives you alot more options.

Further research reveals that later KE70 hubs are the SAME as AE86 ones. So most KE70 wagon hubs will take AE86 rotors, and with the right backing plate can use the calipers too. Also the later struts take the same sized insert as AE86's, so can slap SW20 inserts in for lowness
Roughly measuring the M/C it seems that 86 M/C will also bolt onto KE70 booster,though it will give you a firmer pedal than before.