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Postby 2jayzgte » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:39 pm

I think your opening post can be taken in different ways the fact that the hype of the car so called build up.I was under the guise that it was due to make its opening at Manfield on the 9th of Feb and then you would bear all.

Now your quoting how much its cost to build $100 plus K I'm hoping with this amount of money spent it should actually out perform everything else out there as I'm pretty sure no other drift car in the country has this amount of money spent on it.

So in closing I really hope this car performs as with the hype and $$$ spent it would be a shame for this car goes in with this amount of attention and doesn't perform.But all the best to the team.
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Postby slydesigns » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:32 pm

$100K to build AND race for a season... 20 plus sets of tyres, all new at $200 ea if no sponsor supplies them. Thats $4000. A tow vehicle purchased, a trailer sorted, fuel, accommodation, food, spare parts, entries, the car, the spare cars for parts, the spare bodykits and rims, the graphics, a race suit etc. And you dont think FURSTY or JT's Batty didn't cost cost to that to build, race and run for a season? Including the above extras? FURSTY's graphics cost over $4K if you were to get them done yourself. Add another $4K for the Tow Van and trailer.

The car didn't make D1NZ Rd 2 because there are only a few work every night until 12am to get it done. Mostly Will all by himself. All parts are here, its assembling iit all and keeping it road legal thats taking WAY longer than expected with a few gremlims along the way, like how do we lift a car this low up to change tyres? Rams? Bags? Jacks? Which is safest, fastest, most reliable? What changes will now have to be made to accommodate each idea?
Yaaa...add 3 weeks for THAT idea to work. And so on.
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Postby Prymal » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:12 pm

As long as it goes out on the track with will at the wheel and absolultely flogs the stuffing out of those RX7's and nissan Driftsheep , thats all that matters

I wish will all the best in his endevours and to him and theose others who hold the toyota flag high in D1NZ - good luck!
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Postby barryogen » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:35 am

slydesigns wrote:and keeping it road legal


ummm, why?

It's a race(assuming drifting is called racing) car isn't it?
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Postby Lith » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:52 am

classique71 wrote:As long as it goes out on the track with will at the wheel and absolultely flogs the stuffing out of those RX7's and nissan Driftsheep , thats all that matters

I wish will all the best in his endevours and to him and theose others who hold the toyota flag high in D1NZ - good luck!


Definitely :) Will be good to see it out there and see if a Toyota can mix it in the Top 8 as well!! Was always one to watch with his old car.
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Postby Prymal » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:40 am

i may be wrong but most of the d1nz cars seem to be certed/registered certed and still can be driven on the road ..
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Postby barryogen » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:46 am

you're probably right, but I would assume that it because they use them as weekend racers...

You don't usually see real race cars on the road(barring rally cars going to/from events sometimes)... and it just seems like one hell of a limitation when it needn't be, the man says they have a tow car and trailer.
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Postby johntramp » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:26 am

barryogen, who are you to tell him he shouldn't be making this car road worthy? Then you should go over to Japan and tell them to end the D1SL series while you're at it.
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:54 am

johntramp wrote:barryogen, who are you to tell him he shouldn't be making this car road worthy? Then you should go over to Japan and tell them to end the D1SL series while you're at it.


Calm down buddy.

I also don't understand why it has to be road legal. Its not like D1NZ requires it to be road legal does it?


And your point about D1SL means shit all... I assume it means D1 street legal? If so, thats the point of that class, that it has to be street legal. D1NZ doesn't (I think) have to be, so why the hell would you go to the trouble of making it so?
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Postby barryogen » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:56 am

heh, wasn't *telling* him anything, I just wondered why, hence my question.

If I had a race car along the lines of this thing, I would just get the relevant MSNZ authority cards etc, and not worry about being road legal.

Just to clarify, I assumed that you don't need to be road legal to compete in the D1NZ as there is one dude with headlights that flash when his car hits the rev limiter, something that I would think you couldn't cert for road use if you wanted to.
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:27 am

The reason this car is becoming road legal, is with the amount of time and money that Will is spending on it, he can't not justify not being able to drive it on the road occasionally.

So the car is being built to be road legal, so in the future it can be used in a large varity of motorsport event's
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:29 am

The reason this car is becoming road legal, is with the amount of time and money that Will is spending on it, he can't not justify not being able to drive it on the road occasionally.

So the car is being built to be road legal, so in the future it can be used in a large varity of motorsport event's

As for more details on the build, i know all, but am not going to say anything as it will be worth waitng for, the only hint ill give it that the 2jz has been ripped out and replaced with the most impressive 2/4k hybrid blow throu turbo motor ever :P
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Postby Mr.Phreak » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:29 am

JustinSpiderholden wrote:As for more details on the build, i know all, but am not going to say anything as it will be worth waitng for, the only hint ill give it that the 2jz has been ripped out and replaced with the most impressive 2/4k hybrid blow throu turbo motor ever :P


Finally, someone else sees the light :lol:
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Postby Dorift 180 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:47 pm

Lith wrote:
Definitely :) Will be good to see it out there and see if a Toyota can mix it in the Top 8 as well!! Was always one to watch with his old car.


There was already a Toyota in the top 8.
Got 3rd in the championship I believe?
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Postby Makaveli » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:50 pm

Not trying to sound arrogant or anything. But why would you want to spend $100k on a car thats going to be raped and smashed to pieces every round? I don't see the point in getting fancy paint jobs and bodykits, they dont make your car faster, nor do they make the car handle any better any way. Bodykits will end up getting smashed to pieces after one round anyway. JT's RX7 was imported from Japan which is non-compliant as its 1992 or something. You can get them for like $5-6k for a slightly dented one, which is OK considering u r going to drift it anyway. So you do up the engine slightly and maybe get around 250kw-300kw (upping the boost is enough to do that on a 2JZ-GTE, maybe do the fuel pump and injectors and intercooler) and get a set of coil overs and maybe lock the diff for $50 or get a brand name like Cusco or Kaaz ($1500). Provided you are ok at drifting and dont dent the car too much, your only cost will come in is tyres and maybe the cost of going to event like accomodation and that. Also if u r good, u dont need to waste your tyres during practice as much as novices do. Guys that are good, dont waste time on track burning rubber unless they need to.

Also there is a reason why in JGTC they didnt use the 2JZ-GTE, it makes the front too heavy and the car handles like a whale. In JGTC they were using a smaller 3S-GTE, which was mid mounted at the front, I believe they had to cut the firewall to make it fit. Yes maybe AE86 doesnt look as tough as a supra or doesnt have a powerful engine. But it handles a million times better than a supra around a track. With some extreme weight saving, u will probably get the supra down to like 1300kg. Stock AE86 is 780kg-800ish??? No match. What I want to see is someone chuck 3S-GE beams engine from altezza in AE86, that should kick ass.

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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:09 pm

LOL where do you get your numbers from? A stock AE86 is around 950kg.

And the reason the guy is spending $100k is because he wants to. Where is the problem?
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:22 pm

LOL someones been smoking the wrong drugs
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Postby touge rolla » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:10 pm

Cut the firewall to get a 3S to fit into a whole designed for a JZ????????

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Postby Makaveli » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:18 pm

Its not about the space. Its about making the car mid engined.

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JGTC supra has a cut the firewall to sit the engine as far back as possible. At the moment they are using a stroked 3UZ-FE to 4.5L.
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Postby touge rolla » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:45 pm

yes i realise that but that is not the way you worded it.
That pic is of course NOT a JGTC, it's Top Secrets speed trial car as seen in High Octane 2000.
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