Ae86 getting closer?

[rolla_fxgt]

Pinched form autoblog, but thought soe of you guys who are on club 4AG might of posted it before but cant find it, anyway read and pray!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/20/toyota-turns-to-forum-for-input-on-new-sports-car/

[barryogen]

It's cool and all, but I really want to call BS on this...

For this sort of meeting there is usually lots(and lots) of legal speak and NDAs.

Not something that you would announce in a forum post, especially to not name the dude, but give his position in the company, I mean how hard can it be to look up who he is(I don't care enough to bother).

[Trls250s]

You never know with these sorts of things.

But to be honest it would be stupid for them not to ask the people of club4ag in helping design a cult car, the same cult car that the club4ag community worship.

If they build a new generation 4age ill cream my pants. Haha

Last i heard they were intending the new 86 to come with a boxter engine and to look like a dirty new celica *vomit emotocon*

Honestly they should bust out the old machine that built the originals, build them with better metal, put in there whats nessasary to obide frontal impact laws (cause god knows we will only rip it out of them when we buy them again) and BAM cult car.

I mean they did it with the mini for all those years (you could buy a 1999 mini that looks exactly the same as the early 80s ones).

Honestly there is only one man they need to hire, and that is Kiietchi Tsuchiya

[~SlideWays~]

Lol mini's were built a bit longer than in the 80's

Also I seriously doubt the 4age would ever make any sort of comeback. I mean its been around for over 25years !! (just going by the oldest one I have).

But then again there is a company making the delorian (sp?) again so why not? Although that'd be more of a kit car.

[barryogen]

I mean they did it with the mini for all those years (you could buy a 1999 mini that looks exactly the same as the early 80s ones).

The newer mini was fat and long and sluggish when compared to the original. The original was phenominal, the new one was made for 50-60yr olds to re-live their youth only in comfort.

Oh, and I've never heard of the dude you said that they have to hire... someone special?

[Mr.Phreak]

The newer mini was fat and long and sluggish when compared to the original. The original was phenominal, the new one was made for 50-60yr olds to re-live their youth only in comfort.

I'm guessing he's talking about the new old minis, not the New BMW mini's

Like http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 880140.htm and http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 858791.htm

[mikuni]

The funniest thing about everyone whinging on about whether or not a "new" ae86 is going to come out or not, is the fact that 99% of this forum (and many others for that matter) would never even consider purchasing a new car anyway, so why would toyota even bother. People whinge about paying 10grand for a good 86, why would anyone pay $40,000+ for one that would be heavier and be a more overall compromised package.

[GTTpower]

The funniest thing about everyone whinging on about whether or not a "new" ae86 is going to come out or not, is the fact that 99% of this forum (and many others for that matter) would never even consider purchasing a new car anyway, so why would toyota even bother. People whinge about paying 10grand for a good 86, why would anyone pay $40,000+ for one that would be heavier and be a more overall compromised package.

Very true, but I think people also want the opportunity to buy a new toyota that isnt either a hybrid, fwd or full of electronic crap that limits 'fun'

[barryogen]

Very true, but I think people also want the opportunity to buy a new toyota that isnt either a hybrid, fwd or full of electronic crap that limits 'fun'

The altezza/is200 fits pretty much all that.

Not sure if either the toyota or lexus were sold here new or not, but if the IS250 is anything to go by, it looks a lot easier/cheaper to get a Holden/Ford.

[AE86less]

The funniest thing about everyone whinging on about whether or not a "new" ae86 is going to come out or not, is the fact that 99% of this forum (and many others for that matter) would never even consider purchasing a new car anyway, so why would toyota even bother. People whinge about paying 10grand for a good 86, why would anyone pay $40,000+ for one that would be heavier and be a more overall compromised package.

I'm sure that Toyota does actually realise this. It was reported previously that they planned to be able to sell them for around $20 000NZD (In Japan).

[frost]

20k is dreaming 30k is limited, the cost of re-tooling. casting, marketing, tuning, would make that price impossible.

to be honest i hope they dont make a "new" AE86.
i hope they make a new rwd toyota.

[Trls250s]

Oh, and I've never heard of the dude you said that they have to hire... someone special?

Never heard of Tsuchiya? Your yanking my chain right?

Originally one of the best GT500 drivers, started his career in N2 AE86's. Owner of doezens of 86's and is a regular host in best motoring/option DVD's with his 86.

Wrote 'The drift bible'

He races tougues in his 86, and is also one of the 2 D1JP Judges, and up until recently was team manager for toyotas GT500 team.

AE86 is surnonimous (sp) with this man. You give him one of these and on the downhill he can whip some of the fastest turbo cars.

[frost]

well not just any ae86, his one was built by TRD japan in appreciation for his life long services with there racing team. also that car has been a built over 10+ years to fit his driving style to a T. and its not that great a suzuki sprint car beats him

[barryogen]

I'm sure that Toyota does actually realise this. It was reported previously that they planned to be able to sell them for around $20 000NZD (In Japan).

20k(1.7M Yen) in japan should make them about the same as a corolla mid range... so ~30k here.

I never noticed that there was such a big price premium getting cars here... ~50%

[Dragger_Dan]

Oh, and I've never heard of the dude you said that they have to hire... someone special?

Never heard of Tsuchiya? Your yanking my chain right?

Not doubting he isn't a ledgendary driver, but...
I had never heard of this guy before AE86 fandom started to become a big thing. Probably plenty of people here in the same boat. I guess really the only motorsport I got on TV when I was a kid was aussie taxi racing and occasional european touring cars and the likes of le mans. It's only since the rise of jap car culture in this country that people start becominging aware of the existance of the JGTC or say drifting. Blame the language barrier for the lack of TV coverage I guess. but it would have been different growing up young with a poster of a supra on your wall instead of a ferrari.

[Stealer Of Souls]

I would say that's Trls250s point.
The Drift craze was a biggie, lots of exposure. It would be hard to not have had some exposure to it, and by default Tsuchiya, since he was touted by most people as the father of drift (and by all rights he is).

It would be nice if there had been some "public" consultation. I'd like to see what they come up with for a new 86. Might give me an avenue to shut my family up, if it was half as good a platform as the original.

[touge rolla]

IF Toyota made a new "AE86" it would be a completely different car with little to no resemblance to the original other than it would fit the same niche ie RWD, small, entry level type sports car. It would be a NEW car which would most probably be hated by all '86 fanboys.

[Leon]

Lol mini's were built a bit longer than in the 80's

Yep, try from 1959 in fact

[Adamal]

Tsuchiya also was one of the drivers of the TS020 GT-One in Le Mans

And its true, 99% of the people on here wouldn't be able to afford a new version, or be willing to buy it. But the world is much larger than Toyspeed

[scott900]

IF Toyota made a new "AE86" it would be a completely different car with little to no resemblance to the original other than it would fit the same niche ie RWD, small, entry level type sports car. It would be a NEW car which would most probably be hated by all '86 fanboys.

too true, and from what has been floating around it will have the "spirit" of the ae86, which is exactly that, light fun affordable (at the time it was brought out).

which would mean it'll look like a modern celica with a 1300cc or 1500cc engine.

but have you ever driven a modern 1300cc or 1500cc? in the right car they are "quick".
in the greater scheme of things, ok quick like a noisy slow thing, but so are 4ages.
my wife drives a 1500cc demio and it is quite fast for being in a small light car.
i like ae86's as a car, but there will never be a new one, only a car built on the principals that the original ae86 represented.
small, light, fun, responsive, etc but rwd? maybe not.
only my opinion tho.